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Old 23-01-2008

Saigas are still in Ukraininan/Russian/Kazakh reserves, but I think there is no interest in keeping them. Unless Pleistocene exhibits become popular
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Old 12-04-2008

Currently, just the two saiga bucks are left (one kept behind the scenes). They're not getting additional animals. Moscow Zoo seems to still keep some.

The Douc group is indeed going to be increased by bringing in new animals from the primate sanctuary the Cologne Zoo supports in Vietnam.

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The Douc group is indeed going to be increased by bringing in new animals from the primate sactuary the Cologne Zoo supports in Vietnam.
Way cool! Will they be getting a new enclosure then?
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Old 13-04-2008

@Toddy: To be honest- I don't know. They may just put them to the already existing spot at the apes, or might give a new home in the planned rebuild of the lemur house area.
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Old 13-04-2008

Does anyone have further answers about the stillbirth of the elephant cow Shu Thu zar? Aparently there is a possibliy that it belonged to Aye Chan May because of the body size and mummification.
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@Toddy: To be honest- I don't know. They may just put them to the already existing spot at the apes, or might give a new home in the planned rebuild of the lemur house area.
I certainly hope that they will build a new enclosure. The old one is close to rubbish. The animals don't have any naturalistic encviroment, and it's hard for the visitors to see them. Plus, they need an outdoor aviary.
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Old 13-04-2008

Well, Toddy, due to the new curator's interest in the species, the situation is pretty open, yet quite positive.

Another rumour is currently circulating in German zoo forums: Cologne is supposed to get a Mountain tapir from the USA...
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Old 13-04-2008

That's great to hear. I really enjoyed visiting Cologne Zoo and I think that it has great potential. After seeing douc langurs there I completely fell in love with the species. Mountain tapirs would be awesome!
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Old 15-04-2008

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Another rumour is currently circulating in German zoo forums: Cologne is supposed to get a Mountain tapir from the USA...
"...in negotiation" is the term used, which is the same term used by Leipzig Zoo concerning getting a Sumatran rhino from Cincinnatti Zoo.

Allthough getting a lone male tapir might not be as unlikely as Leipzig's negotiations, i don't really see a point in LA sending one male over so i highly doubt any will come...
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Old 15-04-2008

Stuttgart had a pair of mountain tapirs back in the 80's - don't know if they bred them
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Old 20-05-2008

@jwer: I think I might prove You wrong in terms of the Mountain tapirs for Cologne Zoo; I talked with a guy of the Cologne zoo staff yesterday at a meeting, and he assured me that the responsible curator really wants to get (amost likely also gets) Mountain tapirs (1.1) for the South American exhibit.
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Old 20-05-2008

Considering there are only 4 females in captivity, it would very highly surprise me. But to be honest, i hope i'm wrong Perhaps they'll start out with a male or two.

Found out any more about the Douc's? Wonder how that'll develope...
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Old 20-05-2008

@jwer: Honestly, I'd also be happy if You're wrong on that one . As far as I have heard, the US zoos want to give up breeding the Mountain Tapirs-maybe Cologne might get a "closing-down" deal.
The Doucs' status is currently in abeyance; they're first redoing the Madagascar House (which will result in giving away the Wanderus) and will then decide whether to relocate the group once new animals come in and if the current enclosure will be able to fulfill the required standards or not.
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Old 24-05-2008

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@jwer: Honestly, I'd also be happy if You're wrong on that one . As far as I have heard, the US zoos want to give up breeding the Mountain Tapirs-maybe Cologne might get a "closing-down" deal.
The Doucs' status is currently in abeyance; they're first redoing the Madagascar House (which will result in giving away the Wanderus) and will then decide whether to relocate the group once new animals come in and if the current enclosure will be able to fulfill the required standards or not.
1. Mountain tapirs coming to EU is more than unlikely and does not fit in the regional TAG for tapirs. I guess if Koeln Zoo is preparing for another tapir type from US it will be a surplus male Baird's tapir. In actuality this species is doing relatively well in Central America (the largest part of the captive Baird's are not ISIS listed yet and quite a few transfers have been forthcoming in the last tiennium (to stimulate further unrelated pairings and more breedings). In CA the population is even more favoured towards females. Also all SSP zoo animals are part of a consortium to promote in situ conservation and research in the species.

2. Your info is reliable? From German forumsters I previously heard they had done away with Madagascar completely. The wanderus were due out to an Indian project ... but I can not yet figure out why a very successful group is completely to be broken down. New wanderus groups are formed using offshoots of related females and their youngsters and put in a new male.

3. A good chance the douc group will be saved as a new Singapore animal is due in. Besides, the Koeln Zoo has a in situ conservation project with P. francoisi and Pygathrix in northern Vietnam. They have been prime proponents of linking their captive group with conservation of endangered primates in the wild and biodiversity research and protected area management there.
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Old 24-05-2008

@jelle: Yes, the source is reliable, as he is a member of the Cologne Zoo staff (and we're not talking about the souvenir shop owner or restaurant employee here...). According to him, the current curator wants something "the other (zoo)s don't have" (so probably no Baird Tapir, like in closeby Wuppertal...) for the planned new South American part of the zoo. And it seems that the curator was given the green light by both the Cologne Zoo administration and American zoos keeping Mountain tapirs to acquire a pair. However, we all know that zoo plans easily change; whether the tapirs in question will turn up as Baird's in the end, or whether they will keep their current tapirs, is another thing, but unlike Leipzig's zebra duiker for Gondwana Hall, the possibility that Mountain tapirs could come to Cologne Zoo is genuine. And about the TAG plans: that hasn't stopped zoos in the past to go through with their own ideas...
About the in-situ & ex-situ linking of Cologne Zoo in terms of the Douc's-that has already been mentioned.
 


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