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Hot wires are not always an effective deterrent for apes.
I remember reading about an orang-utan which was holding a hot wire and the muscle in its arm was jumping from the electric current. Rather than drop the wire, the ape watched his arm muscle with calm curiosity for a while before deciding to let go.....
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Yup, all the young trees in LA's Campo Gorilla Reserve were destroyed a week after the gorillas went on exhibit, even though they were all protected by hot-wire.
Yeah, well my comment came from the fact I'd heard Disney (in Florida) had a HUGE weekly expenditure budget for plants in their ape enclosures... Something along the lines of 10's of thousands per week...
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Hot wires are not always an effective deterrent for apes.
I remember reading about an orang-utan which was holding a hot wire and the muscle in its arm was jumping from the electric current. Rather than drop the wire, the ape watched his arm muscle with calm curiosity for a while before deciding to let go.....
All ape species have different approaches to hotwires, and there are obviously differences with individuals too. Orang-utans are the worst because they have a lot of patience to sit there are work out how to get around a problem. Hotwires probably work best with gorillas; mind you I have a couple of photos from Jersey where a youngster was doing the limbo under some wires to get to some protected plants.
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All ape species have different approaches to hotwires, and there are obviously differences with individuals too. Orang-utans are the worst because they have a lot of patience to sit there are work out how to get around a problem. Hotwires probably work best with gorillas; mind you I have a couple of photos from Jersey where a youngster was doing the limbo under some wires to get to some protected plants.
I think it all depends in the individuals because at the Los Angeles Zoo the orangs are terrified of hot-wire, especially the males. I've seen the gorilla youngster at the LA zoo going under the hotwire just to get to the plants, not exactly limbo style but she got under it. I've never seen the LA zoo chimps by the hot wires, so I don't know how they react.
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Old 26-09-2008
At the Philly Zoo I saw a gorilla defy the hot wire and leave the exhibit to get some browse and return to the exhibit.
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I totally agree with what Jay has said about the native animals. Although it is great to learn about animals that are in my backyard, I like to see exotic animals that I will most likely never get to see. Maybe this is why we do not have house cats, dogs, and hamsters in zoos.
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At Givskud Zoo in Denmark, the barrier at the rear of the large outdoor Gorilla enclosure looks like simply electrified sheep- netting. I think the Silverback has been outside it at least once....
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Old 26-09-2008
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Maybe this is why we do not have house cats, dogs, and hamsters in zoos.
Oh believe me, some zoos have.
For a start, try Canis lupus familiaris
 at ISIS....
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Old 27-09-2008
Rabbits, chicken, sheep, goats, hamsters and rats in the children's area of my local zoo...
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Rabbits, chicken, sheep, goats, hamsters and rats in the children's area of my local zoo...
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have hamsters. Maybe you mean guinea pigs?
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I totally agree with what Jay has said about the native animals. Although it is great to learn about animals that are in my backyard, I like to see exotic animals that I will most likely never get to see. Maybe this is why we do not have house cats, dogs, and hamsters in zoos.
Taronga zoo in sydney has two dogs, i think their Boder collies, that they use in the kids zoo to demonstrate herding sheep. its really popular with the kids. they also have a family of minuture pigs, sheep, two miniture goats one of whom is pregnant, a whole heap of chickens as well as mice rabbits and guinea pigs
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I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have hamsters. Maybe you mean guinea pigs?
I thought they were the same thing...

Might be mice instead of rats too...
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Old 28-09-2008
regarding dogs in petting zoos:
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Family alleges Disneyland dog attacked toddler
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Article Launched: 09/25/2008 02:27:38 AM PDT


SANTA ANA, Calif.—The family of a small girl is suing Disneyland, claiming she was mauled by a dog at the park's petting zoo in 2006 when she was 2 years old.
The suit filed Tuesday in Orange County Superior Court says the dog, a German shepherd-Labrador retriever mix, attacked 2-year-old Lena Dickerson on Oct. 3, 2006, biting her several times on the face and leaving her permanently scarred.

A Disneyland employee adopted the 6-year-old dog named Hemmingway from the Orange County Animal Shelter and brought it to the theme park two weeks before the attack. The dog was placed on a box in the Big Thunder petting zoo while a park employee held its leash and invited children to pet it, the suit says.

Lena had been petting the dog with her two siblings for several minutes and was saying goodbye when it lunged at her, the suit says.

The shelter had called the dog "not very social" and said it had a history of aggression, the lawsuit claims.

"It is atrocious what Disney did, and the public needed to be warned," said Michael Bishay, an attorney representing the family. "You don't invite kids to pet stray dogs."

The Dickerson family lived in Valencia at the time, but has since moved to Illinois.

The lawsuit seeks unspecified punitive damages and reimbursement for the family's medical costs and the trauma it suffered.

Disney officials declined comment Wednesday when reached by the Los Angeles Daily News, saying they do not comment
 
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