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Discussion in 'Indonesia' started by Chlidonias, 19 Aug 2010.

  1. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Zoo official issues dire warning about the treatment of animals at Indonesia's Surabaya Zoo | L.A. Unleashed | Los Angeles Times
    Internal row, poor enclosure blamed for deaths of animals | The Jakarta Post
     
  2. Kifaru Bwana

    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    We could have a very lenghty debate on the subject ... but then it is what perspective you are coming from. The zoo in Surabaya does have quite a few old inhabitants/residents.

    That said, corruption and disorganisation (more like slow progress) are not unfamiliar sights in Indonesian zoos. Overwhelmingly though this is a clash of civilisations between the old and the new ethic and hence heavily into the political arena (it is just which persuasion you feel more comfortable with ...).

    The bottom-line here is that it is damn difficult to get really at the true bottom-line and truth of the matter here ***** :( :confused:
     
  3. Zoos Int

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    Here we go again ,who cares who said what and what happened to who .All these Indo zoos are the same ,littered with corruption and puffed out chests ...Ship us in to save these animals ,ive seen this for years & years .The truth is some where in the middle.The bottom line is these animals are dying while they all stand and protest or bicker.One has to sleep sometimes ,so out come the knives to make each other look inadequate at ones job .Its so simple to stop all this drama,education ,management and experience .Mmm,up to who's standards and who overseas you ask ...Its an international disaster that should be deemed as a Hannis crime .Ive seen more animals meet grizzly deaths in these zoos than i care to report.All i can say is we offer to help and put the zoo back on its feet .Get some very experienced vets in and start again .The offer would only be met with deaf ears and pretty smiles .
    I must say when Bali Zoo had its problems ,Pak Agung welcomed us with open arms .Thats a huge success that these zoos need to follow.
    I offer to this zoo our help if anyone can pass it under the right noses.This one cant be swept under the rug any more ......
    Thanks Tony Greenwoods Peel Zoo Pinjarra Mandurah Rockingham Perth Western Australia - Natures Education Center for Koalas, Kangaroos, Birds, Snakes, Wombats and Reptiles
     
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    edit Only realized how old this discussion was after I added the below short comment of astonishment. Sorry for that. Leaving the comment instead of potentially causing confusion by deleting it.

    say what?!?!
     
  5. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    recent news items of the same nature:

    Indonesia zoo giraffe dies with plastic in stomach - Houston Chronicle

    Death-Ridden Surabaya Zoo Pleads for Cash | The Jakarta Globe
     
  6. Kifaru Bwana

    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I am glad finally the state of the zoo is receiving some attention. I do feel the zoo has more potential of positive developments since TS staff have stepped in. An independent corporation and/or State funding would seem the best move for Surabaya Zoo.
     
  7. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    The Associated Press: Nightmare zoo in Indonesia shaken by giraffe death
     
  8. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    photos on this link including one of the overcrowded pelican enclosure referenced in the post above: Inside Indonesia's nightmare zoo (there are five photos and a 31 second video)