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cheetahs (and siamang) for Tasmania

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Chlidonias, 25 Feb 2013.

  1. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    this relates to two Tasmanian zoos so I didn't put it in any particular category.
    Zoo bid for more big cats - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
     
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    I really don't see the need for "public comment" on what species (especially these species) a zoo can or cannot hold. I would understand it for more controversially held species (e.g. cetaceans), potentially invasive species, etc, but both these are both relatively low risk species, already widely held in the country. And since when does anyone call a siamang a "greater gibbon"?

    Rant over, where would the siamangs be coming from? They say "import" in the article, but I guess that could apply technically to any mainland Australia zoo. Mogo or Adelaide presumably? A siamang import from outside the region would be great. Cheetah are basically the only species held in the region where imports from overseas aren't actually necessary for population health (at the moment anyway).
     
  3. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Tasmania has draconian laws on exotic animals in their zoos due to biosecurity concerns; it is different to holding these species in mainland zoos, and whether they are already held in mainland zoos doesn't really factor into it as much as one might think.

    "Import" in this case most likely means from mainland Australia.
     
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    It's a different country down there, alright.
     
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    Unfortunately the State government is controlled by the Greens - don't expect any pro-zoo regulations for a while.
     
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    Which species present in the rest of Australia are regulated in Tasmania?
     
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    I can recall comments from both politicians and conservationists in Tasmania that have been very anti zoos.
     
  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    just a more specific answer to this for you: the application is to add cheetah and siamang to the approved list of species allowed to be imported into Tasmania (from mainland Australia). That is why public submission is being sought, because it is a legal requirement.
     
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    That is true.

    Until the advent of this particular government those comments did not have legs. Now such commentators have power.
     
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    Right, well that makes sense. Obviously I didn't think through the state/federal government distinctions, as they don't exist here. I doubt there would be any reasonable reasons why these species couldn't be imported. Or at least I hope that.
     
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    I think these are Cairns/Mareeba's animals
     
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    could some give a review of the Tassie Zoos? And post some pics as well, their websites arnt much good .....
     
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    There were 3 Siamangs at Cairnes - where has the other one gone? I will have to check up again, but I think these are the 2 brothers originally from Melb Zoo. Why does it say they were kept in a small shed at Cairns? They had a large island attached to the night quarters.... whilst they were in the night house when I visited Cairnes, where they never let out? It seems a bit strange to me to never have been outside, when they had an outside area! Glad to hear they are settled in now though.
     
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    Siamang #3 died as a result of bacteria in the soil on the island. Therefore the surviving two were kept away from the danger by being kept in the nighthouse. This had been originally built for Orangs so was entirely adequate for them - larger, in fact, than an outside enclosure that I have seen for this species in one of the region's zoos.

    The nighthouse was modified to allow the animals access to sunlight, rain and fresh air.
     
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    Curiously, they are still chopping up Tasmania's old growth forests! :(
    I much rather they would concern themselves over that.

    This whole consultation process for Tasmania on mainland Australia imports is going nowhere.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    yes these are the two brothers from Melbourne, Ollie (Oliver) and Botak (shortened to Bo, and now apparently corrupted to Beau).

    Answer to the "small shed" question in the other thread. (Edit: and in Steve's post above).
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    with regards to the results of the submissions for siamang and cheetah to be added to the list of importable animals into Tasmania, the siamang was deemed of "moderate" risk with "import restricted to those licence holders approved for keeping moderate threat species":
    http://www.dpiw.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/Attachments/LJEM-9858EZ/$FILE/The%20Siamang%20Risk%20Assessment.pdf

    The cheetah has been deemed of "serious" threat, with "import restricted to those licence holders approved for keeping serious threat species" (which would include ZooDoo as they already hold tigers and lions):
    http://www.dpiw.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/Attachments/LJEM-985W29/$FILE/Cheetah%20Risk%20Assessment.pdf

    The cheetah application was "strongly opposed" by the Tasmanian Conservation Trust.
    http://www.tct.org.au/media/documents/14.3.2013TCTSubmissionCheetahImport.pdf
     
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