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Old 03-04-2007

I agree... on some part. I am not a huge fan of the public interaction with fully grown carnivores. I know irrelevant to dreamworld but 20 kgs is the max permitted for public interaction with carnivores. QLD has no real set laws but says to use NSW as a guide... this may have changed in the last 12 month however as I know QLD was developing standards, which brings up another question. Mogo Zoo is allowing the public to play with two of it's white lion cubs... $550 for two people upto 20 minutes. From my experience a 5 month old lion cub would be fairly well over the 20 kg mark. Is NSW letting their laws slide a little...?
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Old 04-04-2007

Was the cheetah that attacked the small child in N.Z hand raised?

Unless there is something I dont know , I assume that this is referring to the recent cheetah incident from Wellington Zoo that Jay brought to our attention

In which case , it has only been zoo staff that has been involved in the sad furore -- not a child ( yet -- and hopefully never ! )

My understanding is that the cheetahs were conditioned around people but raised by their mother . To me there is a small difference . You can have a cub that is fed , cleaned , taught , disciplined etc by the mother , and still have interaction ( patting , playing etc ) by humans
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Old 04-04-2007

the tigers at dreamworld arent really performing animals are they? the behaviours in the presentations are all natural behaviours, they arent balancing balls ont their noses etc. or they werent last time i visited.
really, theres not a big difference between this and elephants, seal shows, bird shows, etc, other than that yes, these animals can be dangerous...
im sure the benifits outweight the risks, for the moment. wouldnt like to have to pay the insurance for dreamworld. where else but queensland hey?

on another note, did anyone catch foreign correspondent last night about china's siberian tigers?
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  #34
Old 04-04-2007

Yep saw that about the Siberian tigers, it will be good if they do release some back into the mountains, I am not happy about the proposed plan over there about farming tigers for there body parts, really hope this does not happen.
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so do i. it wont satisfy the demand, it will just revive it. these tradition needs phasing out, not rekindling. and as that tiger expert said, once a tigers dead, you cant tell if the body parts for the medicine are coming from a captive or wild tigers.
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sorry Nigel. I thought a small child was involved. I guess i need to do my research a bit better.
Glyn, tigers standing on their back legs while a trainer holds up a carton of milk for the tiger to drink from isn't what i would call a natural behaviour, but i was wrong about the cheetah maybe i am wrong about this too.
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Old 04-04-2007

Hey Boof,
Your right... but wrong..lol the tigers on their hind legs is a natural behaviour, just that in nature there aren't too many men walking around holding milk cartons stretched out over their heads. But this behaviour is used to show the public the animals size. This posture can also be observed when the cats face off on the island... All of the behaviours, from the situps, standing, leaping and climbing are naturally, for lack of better word, performed by tigers... often see tiger on documentaries doing the situp to look over tall grass. or to mark territory. The way they climmb the trees on the island is amazing.

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Yeah I know. I was just being a smart arse.
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  #39
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Fair enough... Pretty amazing stuff to see anyway, wether or not you agree with it... anyway it's late, why aren't you all in bed?
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  #40
Old 05-04-2007

I would like to see some Siberian tigers in our zoos they are so impressive animals and such a massive cat but i guess it wont happen, from what i have herd and read some wild Siberians in the past have rerached over 1000 lbs, WOW, thats some cat, some of the Siberians at the Howlett zoo and the Marwell zoos in the UK have been some of the biggest I have ever seen in fact i think one of the males at Howetts was the biggest in any zoo.
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Old 06-04-2007

im glad were concentrating on sumatrans, i personally think theyre the most beautiful of the remaining sub-species.
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  #42
Old 06-04-2007

And relatively speaking, we are very short of big cat spaces in the region (see multiple discussions elsewhere). There is no way the zoos should be considering taking on another big cat species, and I'm almost certain that no one would suggest it. (Well.... OK, I can think of few, but sensible people wouldn't suggest it)
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Old 06-04-2007

no way! i want pumas, and clouded leopards, and african leopards, and jaguars too, and maybe bob cats and ocelots as well. we can fit them all in.and white lions, i love white lions
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just to clarify im joking
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Now what did I just say about sensible people???? LOL
 


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