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Old 11-06-2007

The NSW govt zoos are having a rough trot at the moment with the announcement of the death of Cheri the african elephant on Saturday night, also from gut related problems. She couldn't have been pregnant could she
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cheri died
when did this happen?
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Elephant dies at Dubbo zoo. 11/06/2007. ABC News Online
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Old 12-06-2007

35 isn't exactly old. anyone know what exactly was wrong with her?
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local news last night said something about digestion proleems and mentioned heman.
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Our favourite green senator has now asked the RSPCA to investigate the zoos over the two deaths.
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i thought elephants were supposed to do better in open-range zoos
why have the greens launched this attack? admittedly two high-profile animal deaths in a week is alot, but spread out over two institutions??? animals die every day in zoos, as much a shame as this is, its a fact of life. domestic animals die every day, animals that have been bred in captivity for thousnads of generations. of course there are going to be hick-ups, and setbacks.
in 2004 a female cotton-top tamarin (imported shorty before from the USA) died at taronga, with both her twins, after eating a slug! ct tamarins are critically endangered, and the breeding program is definitely important(as with indian rhinos, for example). but not one whimper from the greens camp. and this case was publicaly available data.
im not using the ct tamarin so as to draw a comparison between the species and re-open the suitability to captivity debate, merely to reiterate a point i made earlier; that these anti-zoo people only latch on to high-profile animal deaths.
western plains zoo has been keeping african elephants very succesfully now for 30 years, albeit with no breeding success. in the future (ecspecialy if the africans keep dropping off) this expertise could be transferred over to the asian elephants.
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and one other thing, what would the rspca know about elephants? im not really sure they are in a position or capacity to make these sorts of assessments
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cheri wasnt very old, but she was also teh youngest i beleive in the afri herd. sadly she had some probs, and things like this happen, no-ones fault, and i know the keepers do so much for there elephants at dubbo, they would all be very upset
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Old 12-06-2007

on the plus side, think of the money the zoo will save on food.
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Old 12-06-2007

Glyn I agree! But don't forget the high profile of elephants at the moment. Anything negative to with elephants is going to be used for poiltical point scoring, especially by the Greens. If, as zoo bioy suggests, that Cherie has health problems then I think Dubbo needs to get this information out to the public ASAP. The major difference between this case and Perths is that The Perth elephants ill health was widely known and acknowladged by the zoo. So when she died the zoo could rightly say that it was no real suprise to any one. I wouldn't kniow about any health problems related to Cheri and this will be used by anti zoo people such as my favourite Greens senator.
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Old 13-06-2007

the cons to not reporting bad news, small as it may be at the time, to the media maybe? something we have talked about before hey?

glyn - dubbo use the expertise gained in keeping elephants for asians? well not if keeping elephants at dubbo is rediculous, as you state, due to the costs!!!

the only thing thats going to annoy me here is that already the media are reporting statements that imply that cheri, at 35, was old (the oldest in the herd in fact?) and died of age related illness...

illness maybe, age related?, well technically a degenerative illness gets worse with age - but it does come accross as a bit misleading.
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Old 13-06-2007

theres nothing stopping the staff at western plains zoo from transferring their skills to asian elephants through staff transfers, publications and communications. in the future, if a bachelor herd of asian elephants was established at dubbo, then again, dubbo's elephant keeping skills would be called upon.
the national abc media coverage wasnt as detailed as the local dubbo report-see that one where the zoo's veterinarian is more than transparent about the issues surrounding cheri. you have to consider too, the zoo wouldnt be able to, even if it wanted to, hide anything like this. dubbo is one big country town with strong ties to the zoo, and the zoo has an active and disproportinately large volunteer network, and with cheri, yum yum and cuddles being such long-time dubbo residents their welfare is a high-profile community issue. consider these elephants dubbo's equivelent to rigo
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Old 16-06-2007

Local news is saying dubbo is being investigated and the results from it will be out late next week. Will keep you posted on local news.
 


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