Elephants in Australia and New Zealand

Elephants in Australia and New Zealand
17-01-2007

Hi everybody, my name is Peter Stolk, I'm from the Netherlands and this will be my first post.
I collect everything about elephants and zoos.
Part of this collection is a list with all captive elephants worldwide.
In this firts post I want to ask you all to complete my list for Australia and New Zealand.

According to my list 27 elephants are living in Australia at the moment.
Beerwah 0.3 Elephas maximus
Dubbo 0.1 E.m. and 0.3 Loxodonta africana
Melbourne 1.4 E.m.
Perth 1.3 E.m.
Sydney 1.4 E.m.
Ashtons Circus 0.2 E.m.
Lennon Brothers Circus 0.3 E.m.
Stardust Circus 0.1 E.m.

New Zealand has 3 at the moment.
Auckland 0.2 E.m.
Whirling Brother Circus 0.1 L.a.

Is this still correct?
I hope you folks will help me.

Later on I will ask you guys information about previous elephants to.

17-01-2007

Ashtons circus no longer exists and 2 of their three elephants have since died. Lenoon Brothers don't have elephants. Dubbo has 2 female Africans.

on ashton's circus
17-01-2007

ashtons circus must still have elephants, theyre performing about half an hour from my place at a raymond terrace with two asians right now.

17-01-2007

Thank you Jay!

But I would like some more information.
I've got three names voor the Africans in Dubbo, can you tell me wich one died or left?
Yum Yum
Cheri
Cuddles all born in 1974
And I also have the name Congo, who according to my information died in 2000.

17-01-2007

the info you have is correct, congo, the male, died from pnueominia in 2000, but there are still 3 female africans, i think jay meant 3, unless one has died which i dont believe because on this site, we have heaps of stuff to say about that .
recently, a male asiatic elephant also died at dubbo, around 18 months after his relocation from sydney.
of sydney and melbourne's elephant, 8 (3 females at melbourne) elephants were imported to australia from thailand to kick start our breeding population down under.
with the exception of melbournes 2 animals (one male and one female) and perths 4 all other asian elephants in the region, including dubbo's female, originated from circus backgrounds.

17-01-2007

hey, sorry, stardust. call it a typo, i just got in to uni too. im so happy. ;0;0;0

17-01-2007

17-01-2007

maybe i could be a wildlife warrior like the veronicas, lol, i just got in to environmental science and management

17-01-2007

i know, i think the term we were looking at is demographic bottlenect, which we still face if we cant get the eles to breed.
besides all the conservation, education, bla bla bla stuff weve debated about on this forum, i think one of the reasons im so happy that the elephant import succeeded is because if it hadnt, we might have been looking in the not too distant future at zoos whose only representative of the 'charismatic mega fauna' would have been giraffes or white rhinos. at leas tnow we might have elephant, giraffe and rhinos

17-01-2007

when you think of it too, elephants are still so high to the list of desirable fauna that a zoo 'should have'. elephants, giraffes, bears, big cats and primates. people expect to see these elephants at the zoo dont they?

17-01-2007

omg, i cnt undastand. wat do u mean? lol lol lol

18-01-2007

Thank you all for your replies!

So if I understand right 23 elephants are living in Australia at the moment.
Beerwah 0.3 Elephas maximus (coming from Lennon Brothers Circus)
(Bimbo, Sabu and Siam)
Dubbo 0.1 E.m. and 0.3 Loxodonta africana
(Burma, Yum Yum, Cheri and Cuddles)
Melbourne 1.4 E.m.
(Bong Su, Mek Kapah, Dakkoon, Kulab and Num-Oi)
Perth 1.3 E.m.
(Putra Mas, Tricia, Permai and Teduh)
Sydney 1.4 E.m.
(Gung, Porntip, Pak Boon, Tang Mo and Tong Dee)
Stardust Circus 0.2 E.m.
(Arna and Gigi)

And so there are 5 previous holders to?!
Adelaide
Monarto
Ashtons Circus
Eroni's Circus
Lennon Brothers Circus

18-01-2007

OK, but were did the elephants from Lennon Brothers go?

18-01-2007

not to a zoo certainly, um sorry i have no idea, maybe there is another circus out there

18-01-2007

I think that they all died. Lenons, Ashtons and Bullens lost a lot of elephants in the past 40 years to vehicle accidents. At one time Bullens had 8 or nine eles, the three now at Australia zoo were the youngest.