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#1
Jungle fowl
02-12-2008
Hi I'm new to computers and don't have a clue if this is what i'm supposed to do. I have a gripe about the jungle fowl on the cocos islands ( i think that is the place). Why were they slaughtered and not offered to a zoo, or dedicated breeders? They were the green jungle fowl and very, very rare. there are breeders who would have given an eye tooth to look after them, including me!!!! They had been there for a long time and would have been true to type; what a terrible, terrible thing to do.
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#2
02-12-2008
I don't know much about green jungle fowl, so I checked them out on ISIS.
ISIS shows that there are only 30 of them in 8 zoos world-wide. (Probably a few more in private hands.) Even if they couldn't have been imported into Australia, if they are that scarce then surely some other zoo would have accepted them. Where did you hear about the ones on Cocos Islands being slaughtered? |
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#3
03-12-2008
If this claim is true to form than Australian authorities are guilty of active extermination of an endangered species. Unbelieveably so, for a nation that harbours so many endangered species on its continent. Australia does have a special interest for native species conservation and a duty to conserve exotic endangered species within its borders. Euthanasia is the most cynical method for Biosecurity to deal with a perceived surplussed or disease-issue. I am dismayed and if found to hold truth I am ...
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#4
03-12-2008
The Cocos Buff-banded Rail (Gallirallus philippensis andrewsi) is a subspecies of banded rail endemic to the Cocos (Keeling) Islands. It is now confined to one island in the group, with probably less than 1000 remaining individuals. It has been eliminated from the other islands in the group by various factors including competition with introduced junglefowl. There are two species of junglefowl in the islands, the red and the green, with both species being found in the same areas on West Island where they hybridise -- in other words, the green junglefowl on the Cocos (Keeling) Islands are not pure, they are hybrids. The eradication of junglefowl is essential to the survival of the endemic rail (through the ability to reintroduce the rails to islands from which they have been extirpated).
ComLaw Legislative Instruments - Attachment - National Recovery Plan for Cocos (Keeling) Island Buff-Banded Rail (Gallirallus philippensis andrewsi) a particularly relevant quote to the subject: Quote:
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#5
03-12-2008
Chlidonias,
Thanks for the clarification. Native endangered species conservation and eradication of hybridised competitor species is a more than relevant reason for the extermination process of junglefowl. It seems the comments made by forumster bitch were somewhat premature. Just one more point to clarify here: what on Earth possessed authorities to introduce non native species like junglefowl to the wild ... or (another possible explanation) were these accidental releases by other (even unnamed) individuals? |
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#6
03-12-2008
alot of animals were deposited on australia's islands as living food stores by sailors, and in later times some species became feral after being kept as domestic animals by sealers, lighthouse keepers etc
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#7
03-12-2008
The population was originally made up of indonesians, but now there is a large Malay population. They regulalrly travel back to Malaysia and INdonesia and I presume, on their return, they bring chickens which they let run around in the yard. Presumably some of these go bush.
 Hix |
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#8
04-12-2008
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 I thought you Aussies were rather strict on Biosecurity (overtly so) and immigration and stuff ..... 
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#9
04-12-2008
Domestic fowl as we know them probably include blood from both red and green jungle fowl historically. This seems to crop up in a number of domestic species, having descendents from more than one species.
As to the comments regarding jungle fowl (or should we just admit ... chickens) being released with gay abandon on to Australia's pristine offshore islands by nomadc Malays and Indonesians, I would think that they were released before Australia had biosecurity laws. |
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#10
04-12-2008
The green junglefowl were introduced to the islands between 1880 and 1890 by, or along with, coconut-plantation workers from Indonesia. The islands were only settled at the start of the 1800s and were owned by the British family Clunies-Ross (who used slaves from Asia and Africa to work the plantations, as was the custom of the day). Australia only gained control of the islands in 1955. The regular domestic chickens (domesticated red junglefowl) have probably been in the islands since they were first settled.
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#11
04-12-2008
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#12
07-12-2008
Well that topic got a good airing, and some clarification. There is always two sides to every story. Just a few sour grapes on my part. It would be lovely to have a few green jungle fowl in our zoos, or even some decent red jungle fowl. Most of what is seen here are not true to type. They have already done their quarantine time being on an Aus. controled island. It would take next to no effort to get the green only back in the birds.
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#13
08-12-2008
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#14
jungle fowl green or red
08-12-2008
The red jungle fowl is gallus gallus murgi, and I have a pure strain, descended directly from the Adelaide zoo many years ago. I keep very few and do not sell them to the general public, as I don't want them crossed with OEG, which is done by some. The green j. fowl is gallas varius and from Java and East Indian islands. Both strains would be pure gallas, but I suspect the debate is a waste of time, as we won't get them back in a zoo now!
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#15
08-12-2008
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Could you clarify what you mean by "Both strains would be pure gallas" because it doesn't really make any sense to me. And I have no idea what OEG is an acronym for... |
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