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If that's so, then why aren't you equipped with teeth like a lion/tiger has to kill it yourself?
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Opposable thumbs..? LOL
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Ha great
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I can understand where you coming from Ashley...

My gf is a vego and chooses to be so due to the fact she grew up on a farm and did not like some of the sights she saw (not your typical farm kid) but she has never tried to force it on me in anyway, its just her choice...
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@ashley-h: Could You ask Your "veggie" friend just something: Then why are You "plant eaters" not equipped with a large multipart, complex stomach or a large caecum as well as very broad grinding teeth...?
Sorry, but I hate the artificial seperation brought up by vegetarians; there are neither "sheepish plant-eaters" nor "primitive carnivores"-we're all humans, and if the vegetarians & vegans ask for acceptance of their food choice, then they should also respect other's choice without degrading it.
@NZ Jeremy: I doubt whether the change from milk to soy products is really of great value, but if You think it's better for You, feel free to do so.
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"Large tracts of the Amazonian rainforest" have been replaced or destroyed not just by beef ranches, but also due to logging and by farms producing crops like soy beans etc.-and that not just for the animal food market
Why do you keep using non-sequitur distracters? Do you think it makes your argument stronger? Land is being destroyed for meat production, just because there are other threats does not make this less true.

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but also for the "fat behinds" of Americans and Europeans (so other western nations don't have large bottoms?-interesting; so the fat Japanese guys I saw on Sumo-TV are probably Europeans or Americans..
Oh dear, these are just examples. For concrete thinkers, there is a top ten list here:

Marketing driving NZ up obesity table - 03 Dec 2005 - NZ Herald: Health, Health Services and Medical news


I was referring to populations, the Japanese are overall not obese, or did you think they are all sumo wrestlers? Presumably you wear lederhosen and play in an oompah band then….


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And due to this, even if the "fat-behinded" Americans and Europeans changed their diet from one day to another, this wouldn't change a lot in terms of "the" rainforest; they or others, like the Chinese, would just use the area for another purpose,
This is the kind of nihilistic game the USA plays when it refuses to sign pledges to clean up the planet. Haven’t you heard of “doing your bit”? Oh well, let’s do nothing, we are clearly all doomed….

Let me just say that I enjoy your erudition, and you clearly enjoy displaying your knowledge. Perhaps you regard the forum as a kind of lek….

I look forward to your reply, as I just know you have to have the last word
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@NZ Jeremy: I doubt whether the change from milk to soy products is really of great value, but if You think it's better for You, feel free to do so.
Condescending? Moi? Jeremy - I'm sure you feel better knowing that Sun has given you permission...
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@NZ Jeremy: I doubt whether the change from milk to soy products is really of great value, but if You think it's better for You, feel free to do so.
Maybe its mental, maybe its the fact I've changed to almost exclusively filtered water (been more aware of health as a whole) I don't know... But I do feel better and would recommend you at least try the same before judgement...

@Pygathrix... I do feel better... Much better..!

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"they should also respect other's choice without degrading it."
They do, and she was only joking when she said it. Besides it's generally (but not always) the meat eaters who don't respect the vegatarians choice.
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Humans are designed to eat meat... simply as that. we do not have four "stomachs" like cows our teeth are designed for both meet and not so meaty things. you don't see cows with fangs. It is alot easier to draw blood from a human bite than that of a cow or horse and I've been bitten many times by all three. ashley-h you say it is the meat eatrers who usually don't respect the vegetarians choice... didn't you also say that eating meat is "sick" in a way that is not repscting meat eaters choice. What are your Iron levels like . . . the fact is without all the modern day crap we put into ourselves vegetarians would not be able to function as healthily as they do. Simple. . . And another thing whoe the hell was the first person to look at a cow and say "hey, I might squeeze those dangly things down there and drink what comes out" something to ponder!!!
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It is alot easier to draw blood from a human bite than that of a cow or horse and I've been bitten many times by all three.
Jarkari, why have you been regularly bitten by humans..?

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ah. . . nieces, nephews and ahh. . . . durnken evening fight with friends in the past often resulted in biting as a last resort to get out of any holds... that or a quick punch or kick to the boys. . . nothin suss... Not into the whips and chains Jeremy although . . (jokes)
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*raises eyebrows*

Ok...

I'm in the Police and have been bitten once my whole life, he tasted the baton...
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Lol. . . good show must be a thing that makes people bite coppers, my sisters been bitten four times in three years. and before you say we've gone off topic... people are meat and can be eaten (Hostel 2) or that french fella. . . that guy might be the only "sick" meat eater I know of
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Apparently we taste just like pork... Whatever that means...
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What's the colour of a two cent piece???
and no offence by this one Jeremy
I smell bacon I smell pork, better run copper, I got fork. . .
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