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When i went there to visit my cousins my uncle said that singapore is a zoo that aquires animals and exports them to other zoos. Unlike some other zoos that i know of.
Sorry but that is a the stupidest thing i have ever heard, ALL zoos import and export species, Interstate, and some even do it Globally! some do it less than other.
A zoo that doesnt would either be over run or have no species at all!
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Sorry but that is a the stupidest thing i have ever heard, ALL zoos import and export species, Interstate, and some even do it Globally! some do it less than other.
A zoo that doesnt would either be over run or have no species at all!

I'm sorry but maybe i didn't make myself clear that i actually meant that Singapore zoo is a massive pitstop. I know that zoos export globally but some zoos are a massive interchange. If you know what i mean, which you probably don't so i'm just gonna stop trying.

By the way you can keep bagging me if you what.
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Thanks for the re write.Theres no need to get angry,

You just need to read over your posts and check for clarity, it would stop many misunderstandings on the forum.

Singapore Zoo has the resources to do such activities and good on them, Adelaide Zoo has also done this, Holding the Gorillas from Taronga to Europe and also a Siamang from Singapore to Orana.
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Thanks for the re write.Theres no need to get angry,

You just need to read over your posts and check for clarity, it would stop many misunderstandings on the forum.

Singapore Zoo has the resources to do such activities and good on them, Adelaide Zoo has also done this, Holding the Gorillas from Taronga to Europe and also a Siamang from Singapore to Orana.
Alright thanks, School has just been really stressing me out. But that's no excuse. 感谢,我将下次倾听。
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The young male will be the last polar bear at the Zoo. After he dies or gets exported, no more polar bears will be imported.

Don't all zoos acquire some animals and export other animals? Do you mean to say Singapore is sort of a trading centre for zoos?

Singapore has a (presently dormant) breeding program for Malayan Tigers. The White Tigers are siblings like you said, and even if they weren't, there is no intention to breed them as they have no conservation value. Omar has tried mating with his sisters, but the females have been planted with contraceptives.
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I'm sorry but maybe i didn't make myself clear that i actually meant that Singapore zoo is a massive pitstop. I know that zoos export globally but some zoos are a massive interchange. If you know what i mean, which you probably don't so i'm just gonna stop trying.

By the way you can keep bagging me if you what.
Singapore, while not a massive interchange, does move some small primates and reptile species quite frequently. Certain species of marmosets and tamarins were held in the zoo for short periods but were never on display and exported within a few months. My guess is that it was a pit-stop or quarantine stop.
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The young male will be the last polar bear at the Zoo. After he dies or gets exported, no more polar bears will be imported.

Don't all zoos acquire some animals and export other animals? Do you mean to say Singapore is sort of a trading centre for zoos?

Singapore has a (presently dormant) breeding program for Malayan Tigers. The White Tigers are siblings like you said, and even if they weren't, there is no intention to breed them as they have no conservation value. Omar has tried mating with his sisters, but the females have been planted with contraceptives.
It's a shame about the polar bears they had a great exhibit. I don't mean to be rude but isn't the white tiger gene only recessive in Bengal subspecies? If not so then White Malayan tigers would be amazing if they were bred.
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Singapore, while not a massive interchange, does move some small primates and reptile species quite frequently. Certain species of marmosets and tamarins were held in the zoo for short periods but were never on display and exported within a few months. My guess is that it was a pit-stop or quarantine stop.
There was this article, i can't remember though about that singapore zoo has a agreement with many zoos of the world they mentioned about the young elephant bull Sang Raja going to koln, Inuka the polar bear though he hsn't left and Palong the elephant bull that went to Rotterdam which is now unfortunately dead. Anyway on to the main point it said that singapore zoo is a like you said not a massive interchange but quite big to some extent that they are a a extremly succesful zoo when it comes to breeding. It also mentioned that San Diego zoo and Sydney's Taronga zoo are another two extremly successfull breeding pitstops.

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It's a shame about the polar bears they had a great exhibit. I don't mean to be rude but isn't the white tiger gene only recessive in Bengal subspecies? If not so then White Malayan tigers would be amazing if they were bred.
A lot of people would argue about the polar exhibit at Singapore. It is too small if you ask me, although not the worst polar bear exhibit I've seen.

Supposedly only Bengals have the recessive gene, but they have been cross-bred with Siberians to create hybrid whites if i'm not mistaken. I don't think cross-breeding of tigers (or any other species) should ever be suggested in zoos. it goes against every principle of conservation and captive animal management.
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I've never seen a picture of a good exhibit at Singapore (I've never been so i could be wrong) but it just looks like an island with an altar like rock formation in the middle and a pool around the front edge.
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There was this article, i can't remember though about that singapore zoo has a agreement with many zoos of the world they mentioned about the young elephant bull Sang Raja going to koln, Inuka the polar bear though he hsn't left and Palong the elephant bull that went to Rotterdam which is now unfortunately dead. Anyway on to the main point it said that singapore zoo is a like you said not a massive interchange but quite big to some extent that they are a a extremly succesful zoo when it comes to breeding. It also mentioned that San Diego zoo and Sydney's Taronga zoo are another two extremly successfull breeding pitstops.

just saying.
Palong was a shame, an extremely handsome bull with great breeding potential. Unfortunately he fell into a ditch and broke his leg and had to be euthanized.
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It's a shame about the polar bears they had a great exhibit. I don't mean to be rude but isn't the white tiger gene only recessive in Bengal subspecies? If not so then White Malayan tigers would be amazing if they were bred.
Are you sure about the polar bears? From what i've read and photos i've seen, it's largely considered one of Singapore's worst (due to the concrete and tropical conditions...)

As for white tigers, the vast majority of them are inbred because the original white gene only came from one individual (if i recall correctly) and siblings have been bred together to create more white tigers (and hybridised with Amur tigers), not to mention as Zooish said, they hold no conservation value.
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Are you sure about the polar bears? From what i've read and photos i've seen, it's largely considered one of Singapore's worst (due to the concrete and tropical conditions...)

As for white tigers, the vast majority of them are inbred because the original white gene only came from one individual (if i recall correctly) and siblings have been bred together to create more white tigers (and hybridised with Amur tigers), not to mention as Zooish said, they hold no conservation value.
I didn't put the weather in persective i only meant the exhibit but i guess it's getting worn down a bit.
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I've never seen a picture of a good exhibit at Singapore (I've never been so i could be wrong) but it just looks like an island with an altar like rock formation in the middle and a pool around the front edge.
Your right the exhibit is a island with a cliff face on the front sides with grass and tropical plants and the exhibit is surronded by a pool.
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A lot of people would argue about the polar exhibit at Singapore. It is too small if you ask me, although not the worst polar bear exhibit I've seen.

Supposedly only Bengals have the recessive gene, but they have been cross-bred with Siberians to create hybrid whites if i'm not mistaken. I don't think cross-breeding of tigers (or any other species) should ever be suggested in zoos. it goes against every principle of conservation and captive animal management.
If i'm not wrong does that mean Malayan tigers can have the gene as well? Can i ask,( if anyone knows) does anyone know the parent's bloodlines? If they were white Bengal tigers? orange ones? and the subspecies.
Off topic here can anyone answer about the elephant breeding program?
I have a few questions.

How is Tun's health?
Is Chawang an artificial insemination donor?
If so is it true that his genes will be transported to Taronga and Perth zoo?
Are they going to try artificially inseminate Gambir or Jati?
And what are the breeding plans with Aprila and Intan?
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