Hi everyone!

07-06-2008

@Isupportzoos: GuZoo is a very famous "zoo" in Canada. It is famous for being ****, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I will respect yours. By the way, I sent you a private email asking about the now defunct Polar Park and its owner Al Oeming. Do you have an update for me? Cheers!

07-06-2008

well one purpose of this forum is to premote healthy debate about zoos and wildlife parks so feel free to post your photos and share your veiws of the park but please dont make personal attacks about people and their veiws.

09-06-2008

So Where are these 500 photos of Guzoo which show us that there are huge improvements from what we have been given to date ? Someone has got a heck of a job if they are going to convince me that Guzoo keep operating at its current rate . I have asked straight questions about this establishment , and all I have recieved is soppy irrelevant answers that try to tug at heartstrings but did not give a straight answer .

Isupportzoos , Thankyou for your very kind remarks about someone on the forum .......see below ......
Devon-leave these people alone and run along somewhere else. This forum is one of the few on the net that you haven't tired to bomb with your AR crap.

Charming ......


If Devon tries to "bomb" us with "AR Crap " I can assure you that we will speak our minds in no uncertain terms ( within the rules of this forum ) If you read all of our threads you will find that most of us have little time for AR extremists
until such time , Devon is more than welcome to post threads on zoo matters just as the same as the rest of us .
Devons response to me does not smack of " AR Crap " , and neither does her remarks about Calgary Zoo .
If you are really annoyed about Devons existance , perhaps you should campaign to have the Guzoo DRASTICALLY improved , or permanently closed down . That way it will remove all the ammunition that the AR groups have towards this establishment ( I dont want to call it a zoo -- it will give any half decent zoo a bad name .

You say you were at Guzoo with an experienced zoo keeper . Who is this zookeeper ? I would dearly love to find out his/her views ( or was it a staff member ? )

Isupportzoos , if you would like to respond to me in the same way as you respond to Devon , thats your privilege . But on what basis DO you "support" zoos ? If zoos do not care for their animals , you may as well consider me to be an AR extremist .

Thanks for showing no respect !!

respectfully yours ,
Nigel

23-06-2008

I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read this.

Isupportzoos is right. Take everything she says with a shovel load of salt.

23-06-2008

You guys seem to think you know me so well, but you don't. Just because I don't eat meat and I don't support Guzoo, doesn't mean I'm an extremist. You guys haven't the first clue as to what my beliefs are regarding a wide range of animal related issues so how can you slap a label on me like that?

23-06-2008

You all sure know how to welcome someone. Please except an apology for all of us here. Devonvm from your postings you seem to have miss-characterized yourself and often people on this site tend to jump to conclusions sometimes.

There is a difference between Animal Rights and Animal Welfare. You dug yourself a hole when you mentioned animal rights. Just like the rest of us, we strive for the best in Animal Welfare as you may seem to care for. Animal Rights takes welfare to a very liberal viewpoint and does often anthropomorphize - as these people tend to have rather large egos. I too learned the hard way in how to choose the best diction for a situation.
You might want to consider yourself an Animal Welfare activist, not an Animal Rights activist.

23-06-2008

I consider myself more of an animal rights activist than an animal welfare activist, but do not paint every situation with a black and white brush. Maybe I need a new term to label myself with, a cross between the two.

One cannot look at me, look at what, say, PETA believes, and automatically apply all of their believes to me. I am quite controversial even amongst both my animal rights friends and animal welfare friends. For instance, I participate in and volunteer at the Edmonton Reptile Show and Sales every year, this year I purchased a 1.1 pair of Albino African Clawed frogs and would be thrilled if they produced tadpoles... I maintain and purchase fish for my aquarium... I purchase and would love to produce various exotic insects...all interests and behaviors that most of my animal rights friends would condemn.

I am not full out against all zoos, condemning them all as evil, as many of my animal rights friends would. But I also have strong beliefs as to what zoos should be in existence, what animals should be kept in them, etc...that many of my animal welfare friends would think are too extreme.

HOWEVER, I am capable of putting my personal beliefs aside and judge each and every individual situation in what I feel is a fair manner, without anthropomorphizing.

23-06-2008

so far Devonvm seems like a perfectly rational person. The only people on the forum who should be apologising are animalpassions and isupportzoos, the latter of whom seemingly only joined the forum to attack her although claims to have no connection to GuZoo.

btw, isupportzoos has posted some of the 500 photos said to have been taken at GuZoo showing opposite conditions to what are shown in every other picture ever taken there -- and by "some of the 500 photos" I mean TWO!!!

23-06-2008

Thank you, Childonias. To be fair, he and his friend have posted 24 pictures from their trip a few weeks ago. If you're a member of facebook, you can see them at their "Promoting a Good Future for Guzoo" group... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...id=10764675819

There are also more pictures posted by supporters of the zoo at the "In Support of Three Hills Guzoo Animal Farm" group...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8294903202

23-06-2008

jejeje they really don't like you do they? I did like this response to one of their outbursts

23-06-2008

No, they don't, they may as well re-name their groups "Devon Hate Group" or something. I really try to stay away from personal attacks but they don't, and they take it too far sometimes. I've long since given up trying to stick up for myself because it's like talking to a wall. They think attacking me as a person is the same as me "attacking" Guzoo.