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Old 23-10-2008

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I dont quite think, I can be very wrong though - but remember we are talking about America, selling an endangered species is an infringement on CITES regulations. I know the parties involved must have permits to hold such animals, which are not to hard to obtain if you give the USFWS a reasonable reason, ie captive propagation, education, research (very broad reasons).

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Animal laws are relatively relaxed in the US compared to other western nations. This is not a reason (one of the few) to blame the Bush Administration, but more capitalistic America...these procedures have been around quite awhile.

I dont know the full CCES story, but Im sure the owner is older in age and may want to retire...this is what I assume, like the Catskill Game Farm.
OK, thanx for clearing that up. I still think it is peculiar that a collection of endangered equids is being actioned off for top dollar. I hope you may understand that one.

Besides if captive-breeding where the aim why have quite a few receiving collectors/ locations shot their stallions. This could be termed an animal welfare infringement - a measure of how these wild equids are being improperly handled or kept by the new location(s) -. Perhaps then, it really does not constitute a captive-breeding project at all ...?

What is the SSP Equid TAG stance on the CCES/Gruenerwald disbandment? Have there been any approaches from the AZA zoo community to absorb individuals from them?
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Old 26-10-2008

To clear up some of the understanding, the collection was sent to alot of dealers who were willing to take great number of these animals and they were the ones with $ in mind. The AZA community for the most part doesn't care about these animals. How many vistors care to see a herd of kulan, kiang, takhi, and onager. The animals they want to see are zebras(Grevy's and Hartmann's) and many zoos recieved them and will be recieving more but for the most part there were 600-700+ equids how many institutions could take that many animals. Most zoos don't breed zebras or others as lack of space and interest
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Old 27-10-2008

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Old 29-10-2008

I do not understand that makes this thread here, itīs must be at general forum.
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Old 30-10-2008

Frankly, Europe could support hundreds or thousands of wild horses, kulan and Somali wild ass. Only release them in open wildlife reserves with need of grazing.

Kulan and wild ass as replacements of extinct European wild ass (Equus hydruntinus) which was actually more related to kulans than true asses.

There are some projects just outside Berlin, elsewhere in Germany and in Hungarian steppes. Could be more. What about Somali asses somewhere in Spanish steppes? or even in Morocco? Wild asses lived in North Africa until Roman times.
 


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