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Big cats really do exist in Rutland!

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by ZooLeopard, 9 Apr 2011.

  1. ZooLeopard

    ZooLeopard Well-Known Member

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    http://www.rutland-falconry.com/rws.html

    This private collection (out the back of Rutland Falconry and Owl centre) houses many big cats including Amur Leopards, two of which recently came from zoos in the UK; WHF and Colchester.
     
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  2. Gentle Giant

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    How did this happen to allow big cats from larger collections to small collection, even though they are not a member of BIAZA or EAZA?!

    By the way, the photo of Puma looks like an old aged cat with cataracts.
     
  3. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

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    This happens more times than most people are aware!In fact many of the animals are housed as good if not better than the zoo they left!
     
  4. Nanook

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    I agree this Pumas eyes are definately not very good at all, although it may not be cataracts??
    Does anyone know any more about this particular Puma ?
     
  5. Bele

    Bele Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    As well as 4 Amur leopards and at least 1 puma , does anyone know what else is in the Big Cat collection ?
     
  6. TigerBoy

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    I was about to ask the same question, as the website mentions nothing!
     
  7. Nanook

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    So was I !!
    Any ideas anyone??
     
  8. stubeanz

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    I totaly agree! Just because an animal is in a private collection doesnt mean its husbandry conditions are worse than zoo enclosures. Especialy with the DWA guidelines and inspections, a DWAL for big cats isnt just going to be given to any numpty.
    Stu
     
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  9. zootiger

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    This quote from zootiger's link explains it:

    Animals which are not suited for breeding for a variety of reasons (Old age, genetics, health) are often moved out of EESP participant collections.
     
  11. zootiger

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    Does anyone know what cats they still have. I know they've had generic leopard, amur leopard, persian leopard and cougar but does anyone know what is left there??
     
  12. tennisfan

    tennisfan Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Their website
    Visit the Rutland Falconry and Owl Centre
    includes the following

    Come and meet Uri, Dende, and Argun our Amur Leopards. These cats are among the rarest in the world. Then there is Sadi and Cyrus our Persian Leopards, together with Karli our African Leopard. We haven't finished there as we also have Inca our Puma and Shilo who is a Serval.

    It also has a list of the (9) big cat open days in 2019.
     
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  13. littleRedPanda

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    Wicksteed is not a zoo
    I'd love to see the enclosures but am not paying £20 to do so, knowing that photography is forbidden.
     
  14. Zooreviewsuk

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    Where does it say photography forbidden
     
  15. littleRedPanda

    littleRedPanda Well-Known Member

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    Wicksteed is not a zoo
    At the bottom of the first linked page "We regret that no photography is allowed in the Cats area."
     
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    Looks like that was on the 2016 open days, hopefully not the case for this year.
     
  17. littleRedPanda

    littleRedPanda Well-Known Member

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    Wicksteed is not a zoo
    I think it's a permanent policy ... I visited one day, maybe 2017 and he was telling visitors then about his cats (how smug he loooked when referring to the "only Persian leopard in the country") and he said he didn't allow photography in the cat sanctuary.
     
  18. migdog

    migdog Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Well that's rubbish if that is the case.
     
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  19. littleRedPanda

    littleRedPanda Well-Known Member

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    Wicksteed is not a zoo
    It could be argued that the cat area is a truer sanctuary than somewhere like ... I don't know ... ermmmmm ....that monkey place in Wales perhaps. It is a private place for animals that have been rescued from human exploitation and only allows limited exposure to the public. Plus it actually tries to raise money for wild populations, which is something I can't remember seeing in any WAMS material (but I have been a little blinkered in that respect :D)
     
  20. zootiger

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    Is the website not just out of date? I remember the persian leopard from Chessington being v old!