Cefn-yr-Erw Primate Sanctuary » Cefn-yr-Erw

01-09-2008

I'm pleased to hear that.....

02-09-2008

I heard that the Cefn-yr-Erw owners managed to extract several thousand pounds from the former owners of Southport Zoo to allow construction of a new home for Jackie and Jason. Is the enclosure not all that it should be?? The final enclosure at Southport was really quite good (in my opinion), and had an undercover area with deep straw, a glass fronted grassed area with lots of ropes above. How does Cefn-yr-Erw compare??

02-09-2008

The Chimpanzee cages at Cefn-Yr-Erw are actually pretty good but they are the exceptions here.

Doug and Carol may have donated money towards the construction of their chimps' new cage but an extortionate amount wasn't demanded as Monkey World tried to do.

03-09-2008

Have a look at the gallery on this site PJ for some photos . Not certain which cage Jackie and Jason are in . As Paradoxurus says the chimp cages are pretty good . There is no grass but a deep-litter flooring as with Howletts gorillas . The largest cage was moved from Penscynor - not very far away - when it closed and their chimps moved to Cefn-Yr-Erw .

03-09-2008

When i last visited Jackie and Jason were in the cage that had the indoor area inside the barn down by the Hamadryas Baboon Island.

03-09-2008

Looking at the photo gallery I have to say that it looks quite poor there really. I'm amazed that they are keeping spider monkeys in such a small enclosure, nevermind them having to share it with a mandrill!

03-09-2008

The worst thing is the whole site looks very open and windswept- not very congenial for tropical Primates. I think its one Spider monkey living with the Mandrill but this cage does look extremely basic. The one for Ruffed Lemurs looks much better but too small. It looks like the big cage attatched to the barn might be for chimpanzees?

04-09-2008

i have to agree, the worst has to be the spider monkey enclosure, it almost brought tears to my eyes after seeing those animals in such appaling enclosures (not even that), think of monkey world being like that! i wouldnt be suprised if they dont get alot of profit each year

04-09-2008

I very much doubt that they make any money . It is not marketed as a visitor attraction in any big way .

04-09-2008

shame if you commpare with how well monkey world has done

04-09-2008

True but at least this places admits its just a rescue centre,un-like Monkeyworld which is trying not be a zoo but still breeds hybrid Woolly Monkeys and Bornean Orangs!

04-09-2008

well thats thier own mind set of a non-zoo hehe, i suppose the main reason they breed is to wow guests with the baby factor

04-09-2008

Idon't think that is 100% correct, it would certainly not be the best reason for breeding any of these Primates, considering that Primate Welfare is supposed to be their main concern.

MonkeyWorld do seem torn between being anti-zoo and acting like a zoo- since they a. keep animals in captivity. b. breed from some of them. & c. exhibit them to a paying public. What's so different from the major features of any other 'zoo'.

04-09-2008

Nearly got thrown out for saying to the late Jim Cronin that Monkeyworld was a zoo in every thing but name.

04-09-2008

I've just had a look at the photos of Cefn-Yr-Erw. Those cages are appalling small.