Cefn-yr-Erw Primate Sanctuary » Cefn-yr-Erw

24-10-2008

Interesting comments this week . As I said before I do not want to get involved in the politics of this . Just a couple of points from my visit last week . No chimps are in temporary accommodation , all groups have reasonable outside cages with deep litter flooring . The only monkeys indoors in quarantine are the two male black mangabeys . A new enclosure was being built which I assume was for them .

I do not agree with the 'rescue' of wolf cubs from Europe but can accept that they could prove to be a draw to bring in more people . They already run 'meet the wolf' sessions with their 2 hybrids .

I have seen monkeys and chimps getting a far worse deal in 'conventional' zoos than the animals at Cefn-yr-Erw .

Personally I would NEVER EVER involve the RSPCA in anything to do with the keeping of non-domestic species as , in my opinion , they do not have expertise in this area .

04-11-2008

Well said Bele.

There seems to have been a lot of criticism of Cefn yr erw, from people who haven't even visited. I've been and in my opinion it isn't anywhere near as bad as it's being painted in this thread.

07-11-2008

They have done a good job in their chimpanzee rescue work, no-one is disputing that, and these animals have perfectly adequate, if simple, enclosures.

The photographs of capuchin, lemur and gibbon facilities however are not a trick of the light, nor is it a case of them being bigger in real life. As someone who has worked with primates I have a basic understanding of what is acceptable for these animals, and I think the same can be said for a lot of people who have made comments on this thread.

The existence of Cefn yr erw is a good thing - but taking animals you cannot adequately house is not the way forward, no matter what you rescue them from. It leaves the sanctuary in some instances giving ex-southport animals a smaller space than when they were at the zoo.

08-11-2008

I would agree with this. As I said on another thread, good photographs of an enclosure are perfectly adequate for anyone with relevant Zoo experience on which to base their judgements and a visit is NOT necessary in that case to gain an accurate picture, although it would obviously provide a fuller understanding of the location of the establishment and the setting of the enclosure(s).

Please note I am not making a judgement here- apart from on the need or otherwise to make a visit to such a place before commenting on it..

Wales ape and monkey sanctuary
07-12-2008

The new name of the collection formerly known as Cefn-yr-Erw - announced on their web-site .

07-12-2008

That's an ugly name! I preferred the welsh one.

08-12-2008

Would have thought they may have included the Wolves into the new name after all the trouble they went to getting them.

08-12-2008

The strangest thing about watching the TV show about Manor House Wildlife Park was that the OLD cages they were moving the capuchins and lemurs out of were actually bigger than the facilities for the same species at 'Wales ape and monkey sanctuary'.

09-12-2008

Yes, but can you pronounce it properly????

09-12-2008

I don't need to as I only write it, not say it - but I can see what you mean. Maybe 'Welsh' would sound better though?

09-12-2008

I'm Welsh but i havent really got a clue.

Phonetically i think it's Kevin ear erow.

10-12-2008

It could have been far worse , other local farms are named Tonspyddaden , Cefngwaunhynog and Dysgwylfa !

I would say the pronunciation si closer to Kev'n er eroo . I understand a limited amount of Welsh but can read it , the alphabet is a bit different but pronunciation nearly always is the same , unlike English .

13-12-2008

So what we are agreed on is that a name change is actually a good thing?

13-12-2008

I don't think it is, and i can't speak a word of Welsh.


I'm surprised they haven't been given some Welsh Assembly grant for having a Welsh name. Maybe that's why they've changed it to an English name. No doubt they'll have money thrown at them to change it back.

Sorry for getting political, but nothing surprises me where the Welsh langauage is concerned.

However Cefn-yr-erw, is how i came to know it, and Cefn-yr-erw is how it'll remain in my mind.