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Old 15-05-2008

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@docend24: Depends on the species and individuals. Cheetahs, though no "small cats" do seem to do better (including in terms of breeding) in captivity if no larger predators are around.
Which has it's own exceptions, where Burgers' Zoo in Arnhem is a prolific breeder of this species, and their animals are right next to the lion pride...
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@docend24: Depends on the species and individuals. Cheetahs, though no "small cats" do seem to do better (including in terms of breeding) in captivity if no larger predators are around.
I agree completely. On cheetahs - they tend to losing interest in mating when they together too long - that's another factor that can influenced their breeding problems too. Well, back to clouded leopards
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Old 15-05-2008

I liked clouded leopard indoor cages in Prague.

Visitor pathway is darkened, a bit away and with played jungle sounds. For people it is some fun. Cats hardly see or hear humans.
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I think the aspinall's trick has been to work very closely with individual leopards, and as a result generally have had calmer animals whose individual personalities were well-observed by staff before any introduction was attempted. They also seemed for a while to introduce pairs while still young, to create some familiarity before sexual maturity. I speculate here but there are plenty of photos and accounts of keepers 'playing' with individuals of this species, so it could well be that a few animals hand-reared early on went on to produce cubs which were, along with their parents, consequently far less stressed in a captive environment and less likely to kill mates on introduction. Sounds paradoxical but it could be. There are occasions where hand-rearing produces perfect parents and very calm, manageable animals.
Not sure about hand-reared animals these days, but the rule of thumb with Howletts cloudies is to pair an experienced/older female with a young male (pers com with the head carnivore keeper). It appears that the female is able to dominate the male and thus negate the effect of those long canines during mating. This hasn't just happened with certain individuals, but throughout the breeding program. It may well be an 'old keepers tale' that has become routine, but then there may be some common sense that we have yet to see in wild animals. Their breeding success speaks for itself; more offspring each year than everybody else combined.
 


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