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Old 10-03-2008

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Isn't it common practise for zoos to keep female elephant calves in the group unless there is different circumstances (space, fights etc)?
Yep, and as most zoo's have several unrelated females they keep the female babies to increase the bond in the heard
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Just about the black rhinos and baboons. Maybe they are thinking of having the rhinos in a paddock in the foreground and the baboons on a cliff face behind or vice versa and they won't actually be mixed. That way visitors could see both at once.
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South Lakes have managed to keep baboons and rhino in the same enclosure without much hassle as far as i know so don't see why they couldn't share the same space.
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Old 11-03-2008

I think the baboons and black rhinos will mix together okay- more of a problem might be containing the baboons.
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Don't port lympne have male black rhinos running with the antelope and giraffes in the african safari reserve?
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a couple of male rhinos, yes. To date I haven't yet managed to visit that area during a Port Lympne visit.
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Old 11-04-2008

The 1.2 wolves that were previously at Norfolk Wildlife Park, prior to the change of direction, were from Wildwood Trust. I know because I moved them. The Wildwood wolves are originally from the Carpathians, and not Iberian.
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That's what I thought. So where did the Norfolk wolves end up? Are you saying they moved to Howletts and that Howletts are claiming them to be Iberian, or did the Howletts wolves not come from Norfolk?
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That's what I thought. So where did the Norfolk wolves end up? Are you saying they moved to Howletts and that Howletts are claiming them to be Iberian, or did the Howletts wolves not come from Norfolk?
This is interesting... So if the Howletts' 'Iberian' wolves came from Norfolk, they are Carpathian, not Iberian...
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. The wolves at Howletts are (as far as know) pure Iberian. There is no connection to Norfolk nor Wildwood (except both collections being in Kent). Howletts received the wolves possibly before the Norfolk transaction. I know the carnivore keepers (Howletts) were very keen on getting into the Iberian program. As somebody already mentioned the Aspinall zoos always look to species that nobody else is doing much with. I wouldn't necessarily agree with this direction... For example: interestingly it now makes for 3 pure populations of European wolf in the country (not withstanding the cross-breed Europeans and Canadian Timbers), as Highland have Scandinavians. None of which are working in the same direction.

From what I heard on the grapevine the wolves at Norfolk went to a private keeper (cannot think of name, North England?). He breeds alot of unusual species for the private pet trade (arctic foxes, genets, sugar gliders etc).
Before anybody asks I doubt that his intention with the wolves would be to breed for the private trade. One of the girls is quite old (an original founder at WW) while the other two were born in 2004/5 and the male is neutered.
What is going on at Norfolk is a whole other ballgame. I am surprised that they are still open.
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. The wolves at Howletts are (as far as know) pure Iberian. Howletts received the wolves possibly before the Norfolk transaction. I know the carnivore keepers (Howletts) were very keen on getting into the Iberian program. As somebody already mentioned the Aspinall zoos always look to species that nobody else is doing much with.
I think that was me...(the last bit)

So do you know where Howletts got the Iberian wiolves from? A Spanish zoo or wildlife collection? Do you know if they have bred from them at all yet(even unsuccessful breeding)? And whereabouts at the park are they kept?

Norfolk WP has sent away all its major animal species and is now operating as a 'Farm Park' as far as I know...
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Old 12-04-2008

The start of this thread mentions iberian wolf cubs last year. ISIS reports 2.3 Spanish wolves at Howletts, with 3 cubs born in the last year. I think (from someone else's description) they are housed in one of the two former timber wolf enclosures, near to the sumatran tigers, as opposed to the one by the entrance.
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The start of this thread mentions iberian wolf cubs last year. ISIS reports 2.3 Spanish wolves at Howletts, with 3 cubs born in the last year. I think (from someone else's description) they are housed in one of the two former timber wolf enclosures, near to the sumatran tigers, as opposed to the one by the entrance.
I really want to see these when I next visit, hence the enquiry. I guess thats the enclosures behind the mansion that later held the Dholes?

I thought it was rather odd when they moved the(North American) wolves to the enclosure near the entrance, they are in an open 'Orchard' area now. The Dholes nowadays have a similar enclosure too but it seems to suit them better.
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sorry don't know the origin of any of the UK iberian wolves.
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sorry don't know the origin of any of the UK iberian wolves.
thanks, I'll try and find out when I next visit...
 


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