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Old 16-09-2008

i think the size of the enclosures is quite large, with 4 sleeping quaters and an indoor enclosure, as its 10 metres high and the sides of the enclosure are climbable maybe its vertical square footage is supposebly enough!

There is a large outside enclosure but that wont be completed until easter next year!

I bought a brick about 4 years ago for this enclosure lol be nice to see it finally in place in the tunnel leading to the new enclosure!
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Old 17-09-2008

bought a brick lol, already knew about the plans for old enclosure but thanks for the rest
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Went to the adopters day today Had a fantastic day!

Went behind the scenes in the old enclosure to watch rajang being fed nuts and dates!

Rajang's training for the move to new enclosure is going very well, (didnt see it) they apparently put a t-bar up to the cage and he will hold both ends of it while they inject him with a syringe! then they are hoping to stretcher him to new enclosure after taking blood and possible give him a hair cut (Hope not I love his long dragging wild hair)
Djambe move plans are not going so well so she may be darted and put in a crate to move!

Went to have a look in the new enclosure it seems huge! I could see 3 separate sleeping areas all with climbing poles and hammocks (thought there was supposed to be 4?)

The indoor play are had a huge (plasticy) looking tree as the centre piece with lots of climbing poles and hammocks!

Half way up in a metal platform for them to sit on that you can see from a viewing platform leading off from the ramp to the outside enclosure! The walls are supposed to be climbable to but it is filled with poles.

Also went outside to look at the very unfinished outdoor enclosure which is a pit semi enclosed (so far) by smooth concrete walls which you will look down into from a viewing platform! In the midlle at the moment is a real tree not sure if thats staying!

According to the keeper they will not bring in any new orang utans while Rajang is still alive!

Took loads of photos but not sure how to upload them as yet but will when i can!

Fantastic day No sign of my brick tho!

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Old 21-09-2008

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Went to the adopters day today Had a fantastic day!

Went behind the scenes in the old enclosure to watch rajang being fed nuts and dates!

Rajang's training for the move to new enclosure is going very well, (didnt see it) they apparently put a t-bar up to the cage and he will hold both ends of it while they inject him with a syringe! then they are hoping to stretcher him to new enclosure after taking blood and possible give him a hair cut (Hope not I love his long dragging wild hair)
Djambe move plans are not going so well so she may be darted and put in a crate to move!

Went to have a look in the new enclosure it seems huge! I could see 3 separate sleeping areas all with climbing poles and hammocks (thought there was supposed to be 4?)

The indoor play are had a huge (plasticy) looking tree as the centre piece with lots of climbing poles and hammocks!

Half way up in a metal platform for them to sit on that you can see from a viewing platform leading off from the ramp to the outside enclosure! The walls are supposed to be climbable to but it is filled with poles.

Also went outside to look at the very unfinished outdoor enclosure which is a pit semi enclosed (so far) by smooth concrete walls which you will look down into from a viewing platform! In the midlle at the moment is a real tree not sure if thats staying!

According to the keeper they will not bring in any new orang utans while Rajang is still alive!

Took loads of photos but not sure how to upload them as yet but will when i can!

Fantastic day No sign of my brick tho!
By the sounds of it a great new exhibit, shame that no new orangs will be brought in to breed though ..... Perhaps then they should ship out the female to allow her pure genes to be spread in the captive population instead ...?
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Old 21-09-2008

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By the sounds of it a great new exhibit, shame that no new orangs will be brought in to breed though ..... Perhaps then they should ship out the female to allow her pure genes to be spread in the captive population instead ...?
i think in the future they are planning to bring in more orangs, and thanks for the update
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By the sounds of it a great new exhibit, shame that no new orangs will be brought in to breed though ..... Perhaps then they should ship out the female to allow her pure genes to be spread in the captive population instead ...?
This is strange news- I heard they applied for an additional pair of Sumatrans to breed from in the future...the house is supposed to hold four animals.
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This is strange news- I heard they applied for an additional pair of Sumatrans to breed from in the future...the house is supposed to hold four animals.
Four!!! Is that all!

Probably best not to hold pure orangutans just incase the hybrid does manage to breed. Can't remember which thread but it was stated alot of matings happening between wiremesh enclosures.
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Probably best not to hold pure orangutans just incase the hybrid does manage to breed.
Rajang(the only hybrid still in UK) can't breed as he was vasectomised a long while ago. He's had two partners- first a hybrid female(Annie) and now Djambe who is Sumatran.

It says on their website blurb about the new enclosure that they hope to get an additional pair at some stage. I also know they were on the EEP list as wanting more animals. The problem is Rajang would not live with another subadult or adult male so I'm not sure how they would accomodate them.

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Old 21-09-2008

I think Rajang is such a much loved orang utan they wouldnt risk upseting him by thinking about a breeding programme and bringing in a new male while he is still alive.

He has lived in his enclosure for 25 years (he was 40 this year) and the main priority for the keepers is that he has a happy and safe move, they were telling me they are worried sick something might happen to him when they knock him out!

Rajang and Djambe are like brother and sister, they constantly bicker and apparently Rajang likes to get higher than her and wee on her head!
The keeper has only seen them try to mate once in 5 years (even tho obviously no babies would come of it) but neither of them seem interested!

Plenty of time for Colchester in the future to have breeding orang utans for now I for one will be happy for Rajang to live out the rest of his life happy and comfortable in his new home!
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Old 21-09-2008

If they are worried to knock Rajang down, then why the h** are they doing it? All orang utans in Frankfurt were trained to walk into a crate and then they were moved to the new house without knocking them down. Only one female refused to go into the crate and had to be given drugs.
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Old 21-09-2008

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If they are worried to knock Rajang down, then why the h** are they doing it? All orang utans in Frankfurt were trained to walk into a crate and then they were moved to the new house without knocking them down. Only one female refused to go into the crate and had to be given drugs.
I know, it seems a silly way to do it.
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Old 21-09-2008

monkey world knock out all animals when they move, why dont they bother to spend time to train them?

and is chester the only zoo in the uk with sumaturan orangs?
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Old 21-09-2008

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If they are worried to knock Rajang down, then why the h** are they doing it? All orang utans in Frankfurt were trained to walk into a crate and then they were moved to the new house without knocking them down. Only one female refused to go into the crate and had to be given drugs.
I wondered the same thing. Paignton's gorillas were crate trained to travel to Germany & Chessington without being knocked out- Rajang & Djambe have only got to go a hundred yards or so...
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monkey world knock out all animals when they move, why dont they bother to spend time to train them?

and is chester the only zoo in the uk with sumaturan orangs?
Jersey have sumatrans as well (and Djambe at Colchester)
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I think Rajang is such a much loved orang utan they wouldnt risk upseting him by thinking about a breeding programme and bringing in a new male while he is still alive.
In that case why are Colchester on the EEP list of projected moves for Sumatran Orangs to (possibly) receive 1.1. in 2009?

Even the website says they want to add another pair- to hold four animals in total.

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