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Old 30-09-2007

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All the Jersey group are Sumatrans
The other female is Marwar, and I think she has two offspring with her still (Jiwar, and the younger one's name escapes me)
Mawar is Gina's daughter by the first male Gambar.

Mawar's son 'Jiwar' is apparently stunted. This was Mawar's first baby and she was overprotective, hugging him tightly so he was a bit deprived of oxygen and its left a longterm effect in that he is small and slow to develop.

Jersey have bred a number of Sumatran orangs over the years but a high proportion have been males.
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Old 01-10-2007

do you know the names its unfotunate about that sometimes animals and palces just produce certain sex
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  #18
Old 02-10-2007

I was at Durrell yesterday, so here's a quick update on their orang-utans

Male Dagu (dominant male, born 1985, arrived in Jersey 1995 as replacement for Gambar 1962-1995)
Female Gina (dominant female, born 1964)
Female Mawar (daughter of Gambar and Gina, born 1989)
Male Jiwa (son of Dagu and Mawar, born 1999)
Male Jaya (son of Dagu and Gina, born 2004 by Caesarean section)
Male Gempa (daughter of Dagu and Mawar, born 2005)

Since both breeding females (Gina and her daughter Mawar) have given birth in the last 3 years, Jersey won't be getting any more baby orangutans in the near future unless they decide to bring in a new female to replace Julitta who moved to Amneville earlier this year. Gina may be too old to breed again and Mawar has already bred twice with Dagu, so some new blood wouldn't be a bad idea.

Dagu really looks the part - he has fully developed cheek pouches and is a huge animal. He wasn't in a good mood yesterday. When the keeper threw his lunch bag across the moat, Dagu threw it straight back into the water!
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Old 02-10-2007

By the way, Gempa is the tenth Sumatran orangutan born in Jersey since Durrell started keeping them in 1968.
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Old 03-10-2007

wow so they have bred only 10 sumarten orangs do u what they were called
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Dagu really looks the part - he has fully developed cheek pouches and is a huge animal.
Did you know that although 'Dagu' was born in a European zoo,( I can't remember where) before he came to Jersey he had spent most of his life in Brentwood,Essex. He was owned privately by what I think was a ScrapMetal Dealer. How Dagu came into his possession I don't know. Living on his own for many years hasn't affected him breedingwise though.
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Old 03-10-2007

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wow so they have bred only 10 sumarten orangs do u what they were called
from memory;

female Timor (Gambar x Gina- sent to Zurich?)
male MokkoMokko (Gambar x Gina)- xraY before birth damaged testes causing retarded development- sent to 'Monde Sauvage'- Belgian Safari Park)
female Selatan(Gambar x Maias(died)) - sent to?
male Kluett(Gambar x Gina) sent to Taronga, now at Adelaide Zoo
male Wirawan (Gambarx Julitta) sent to La Boissierre- died(killed by adult male)
female Mawar (gambar x Gina) still at JWPT.
male Jiwa (Dagu x Mawar) still at JWPT
male Jaya (Dagu x Gina) still at JWPT
male Gempa (Dagu x Mawar) still at JWPT
female Putri (Dagu x Julitta) sent with mother to Amneville. France.

I think that is right. The female 'Maias' came from Zurich but only bred once before she died at Jersey(before the new Orangutan house was built)
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Old 03-10-2007

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Did you know that although 'Dagu' was born in a European zoo,( I can't remember where) before he came to Jersey he had spent most of his life in Brentwood,Essex. He was owned privately by what I think was a ScrapMetal Dealer. How Dagu came into his possession I don't know. Living on his own for many years hasn't affected him breedingwise though.
He does breed well,but also has an unhealthy interest in digger trucks
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Old 04-10-2007

WOW THANK YOU FOR THE NAMES - and so intresting about dagu and his life in essex - just round the corner from me
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Old 08-10-2007

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The only 'Oscar' at Chester was the Sumatran male who was paired with female Ramona (who came from, I think, E. Berlin). Their only offspring at Chester were Emma and Subis.
That statement I made about Oscar and Ramona only having two babies at Chester isn't true... I've remembered now that 'Emma' and 'Subis' have a brother. He is called 'Douglas' and was born in 1985- the year before Subis. Like the two sisters he was also handraised. He was sent to Gavle in Sweden where he still lives with a female. They have bred but the infants so far haven't survived (see 'Swedish Primate' posts on General Forum)

... so don't believe everything I tell you....
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Old 08-10-2007

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He was sent to Gavle in Sweden where he still lives with a female. They have bred but the infants so far haven't survived (see 'Swedish Primate' posts on General Forum)
I've looked on the Swedish Primates thread- it indicates the current male Sumatran Oranutan comes'from Switzerland'. 'Douglas' did originally go to Gavle, so he's either been moved, or has died... He may not have bred there in that case.
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Old 09-10-2007

wow sao emma and subis has a brother wow dind not know this thnx
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Old 09-10-2007

Apenheul Zoo in Holland received Chester born male Sibu in May 2005. He came from Barcelona Zoo expecting to breed with the horde of females at Apenheul.

Sadly, Sibu proved to be a mister self-destruct. The females were quite impressed when he first arrived, but all their approaches he just did not know how to get "involved". Apenheul keepers and curator put it down to him being handraised and having few social skills.

That is all the more tragic as he is a genetically very valuable animal. Now he will go back to Chester Zoo in January 2008 to be joined with the only female he sort of clicked with. I don't know her name, but he has been with her before.
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  #29
Old 09-10-2007

I don't think that the house is geared up for 3 healthy adult males! Puluh, Tuan, and Now sibu!
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Old 09-10-2007

Chester don't really need sibu back at all.. It could create management problems for them , keeping two adult males within close proximity. However, it will be a good display nonetheless. I believe two of the existing Chester females are Sibu's mother and sister...
 


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