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Species you've photographed which have since disappeared from UK collections

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by TeaLovingDave, 28 Jun 2013.

  1. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Looking through the thread relating to species on the brink of disappearing from UK collections I realised that in the handful of years since I joined Zoochat, I have actually photographed a few species which have since disappeared from the UK, and a few more which almost certainly will follow. This inspired me to create this sister thread for us to share our images of species which *have* disappeared from the UK. I daresay that some of us will have much juicier things to share than others ;)

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    The Southern Springhare (Pedetes capensis) is one of the few species which we know a certain date at which time they ceased to be kept in the UK, due to the circumstances of this particular loss; the fire at Five Sisters Zoo on April 14 2013.

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    Another species which has ceased to be kept very recently; I took this photo of the Southern Bald Ibis (Geronticus calvus) at Blackbrook when I visited on 24 February 2013 - by the time the collection re-opened fully at the end of April the species was gone. Judging by the severe weather between these two points, it is quite possible that this individual died as a result.

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    A species whose loss has been discussed on a number of occasions, this Hamlyn's monkey (Cercopithecus hamlyni) is the only individual animal of the three I have posted which we know is still alive; along with the female also held at Edinburgh Zoo at the time of this photo, this male was sent to Bojnice Zoo in Slovakia about a year ago.

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    I look forward to seeing any other gems which other Zoochatters have photographed!
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Re the Hamlyns monkey photo. I think we agreed this is the male ('Argus'?) that was transferred from Twycross to Edinburgh. It will be interesting to see if he can breed at Bojnice. I was told at Twycross he was 'thought to be infertile', though I tend to take statements like that with a pinch of salt- in more relaxed surroundings and/or a different partner, he might be able to breed.
     
  3. gentle lemur

    gentle lemur Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Gosh, that's a tough one . . ..

    Angwantibo
    Cuban hutia
    cuis
    fire-footed squirrel
    Indian tree shrew
    lesser tree shrew
    moustached tamarin
    talapoin monkey
    terrestrial tree shrew
    short-eared elephant shrew​


    . . . and that's just the ones I can remember from the Clore


    Plus a few from the gallery


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    I'm sure there are plenty more in my wildly disorganised files

    Alan
     
  4. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    A blow can be struck for the continued diversity of UK collections - there is still a single collection holding Plains Viscacha; I saw a sizeable group at Amazon World only a fortnight or so ago :)
     
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    I suppose the big one that I need to scan from my old film photos,is a very poor picture of a Mountain Pygmy Possum taken at Amazonworld on the 30/9/2001!
     
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    There are no Himalayan snowcocks left?
    Me shocked.
     
  7. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Haven't been in the collection for about 5 years now, I think.
     
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    Right just going through some old photograph notes and I took pictures of the following species at Bristol Zoo on 28/9/2001nWhite-bellied Spider Monkey,Coquerals Mouse Lemur,Ginther's Vole and Red-throated Barbet.
    At Paradise Park Hayle on 30/9/2002 Verditer Flycatcher and Echo Parakeet.
    At Newquay Zoo on 3/10/2002 Sooty Mangabey,Malachite Sunbird and African Ground Squirrel.
    At Belfast Zoo on 12/11/2002 Weddell's Tamarin.
    At Chester Zoo on 19/6/2004 Dwarf Surinam Toad.
     
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    Heres a few more from various places,
    Living Coasts 24/12/2007 Caspian Tern.
    Paignton Zoo 27/12/2007 Gold-billed Ground Dove.
    National Marine Aquarium 28/10/2008 Blue-ringed Ocopus and Spotted Wobbegong.
    Colchester Zoo 24/6/2002 Black Mangabey and Rocky Mountain Goat.
    Linton Zoo 2/7/2003 Black-spined Toad.
    Southport Zoo 15/9/2003 Canadian Lynx.
    Thrigby Hall Wildlife Gardens 30/12/2003 White-necked Mynah,Malayan Treepie,Large Tree Shrew and Japanese Giant Salamander.
    Suffolk Wildlife Park 31/12/2003 Gambian Epauletted Fruit Bat,Spider Tortoise and Short-eared Elephant Shrew.
    Welsh Mountain Zoo 7/2/2004 Persian Leopard Ornate Spider Monkey.
    Lotherton Hall Bird Garden 25/7/2004 Australian Brush Turkey.
     
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    Do Chessington still hold a pair of Persians? Nobody seems to have been in quite a while, however they are still listed on zootierliste. On Chessington's website they have been removed, but replaced with Carpathian lynx.
     
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    My bad!
    I was checking on Zootierliste, but I got distracted by the hutias (I'm sure I saw and photographed another species at London apart from Cuban & Jamaican, but I can't remember which one). Anyway I'm pleased about the viscacha, they are nice animals.

    I can see I'm going to have to start scanning again, like zoogiraffe. I have a few real rarities in the files (Siberian white crane and giant coot spring to mind).
    Funnily enough yesterday somebody asked if they could use one of my really old photos which has found its way around the web. I rediscovered a few of my old scans on a very old website. For your delectation and delight I have added four-horned antelope, angwantibo, terrestrial tree shrew (Tupaia tana) and giant armadillo to the Gallery.

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    If thumbnails do not appear, look in the Gallery under Howletts and London ZSL

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    Of those, I think I am the most jealous about the angwantibo; I daresay one could fill the whole of this thread just with species which used to be in the Clore!
     
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    Somewhere I have a shot of one of the Pampas Cats held at Kilverstone, taken in about 1989. And another of the last Common Wombat in the Clore, from around 1985.
     
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    Hopefully this thread might encourage anyone who saw the Aspinall marbled cat and/or african golden cat to upload a shot or two :p

    I've found quite a few nice photos of some much-missed species in the gallery but I'm leaving it up to the owners to post them when/if they so desire.
     
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    Have Chessington stopped holding this subspecies then? If so then quite a blow for leopard diversity in the UK.
     
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    In view of the uncertainty over the taxonomy of the Pampas Cat, it would be interesting to know if anyone has preserved the animals that were in the UK 30 or 40 years ago. There was at least one animal at Chester as well, although I never saw it.
     
  18. TeaLovingDave

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    I know the young leopard Cyrus held at Chessington was sent to a private collection in Rutland due to a non-breeding order after he was diagnosed with a heart condition, but I'm not sure whether the breeding pair - his parents - have also left, or indeed have died.
     
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    Just checked ZTL and they are still listed, along with Borth and Rutland Owl And Falconry Centre(?).
    Not sure about the accuracy given the last two but I would have thought the Chessington entry would be accurate.
     
  20. TeaLovingDave

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    Rutland Owl and Falconry is where the young male was sent :) the falconry side of things is public, but they have a small private collection of big cats which occasionally opens to the public for specially bookable days where - annoyingly - all photography is banned!