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No I don't think they do ever let them out of their enclosure.
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I'm not sure if the planned Lion & Dhole enclosures are to be in that general area- it might compromise expanding the elephant area if they wanted to at some time in future.

Do Twycross ever exercise their elephants outside the paddock?
Correct that is where the Lion,Dhole and Hyena exhibit is suppose to be going,i have seen them walk the younger Elephants round the zoo but not for a few years.
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I am currently working on the design team for the Twycross Zoo development, I know pretty much everything that is going to be built.. there is going to be a water cleaning system that will clean all the water and re-use it throughout the zoo, and this will also become an attraction for visitors.. There is also plans for a windmill to generate electricity or a biofuel plant. Email me for more info, I have plans and architects drawings etc
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Stewar, what new animal exhibits can we expect?
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Snow Leopards, Waders and possibly a Leafeater Ant Display.. Although the ant display is proving rather difficult. The snow leopard exhibit is going to have a snow machine, which will make artificial snow and pump it out as and when it is needed. There is obviously also going to be the addition of a major new restaurant and eating area, aswell as shopping areas..
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Bear in mind that the 100% success rate was entirely to Chester Zoo's credit. What we have been saying all along is that after returning to Twycross on their confirmed pregnancies and the uneventful and successful rearing of both calves, they did not wish to invest in housing a bull nor did they send on the cows once more to Chester for re-breeding. The net end result has been that one of the breeding cows is now considered post reproductive (it makes you want to tear your hair out ...) and for the other they are discussing and discussing whether they should opt for AI or not. It remains a failed breeding policy.
No, I have to disagree. Certainly Chester was instrumental in the process, but bear in mind that Tonzi and Mimbu may well have been tractable but they were badly socialised animals with very little experience of other elephants apart from the short time at Chester. I saw footage of the births, which were assisted by the keepers while the mothers were chained....sadly a necessary and common procedure for some elephants who are are risk of attacking or trampling calves with so little experience of them. To deliver each baby successfully and succeed in calmy reuniting them with their mothers I consider to be a 100% success rate. Uneventful is the operative word here, but that would have taken a great deal of work to achieve.

I agree totally about their position, I wonder is the power balance such that EEP coordinators/ BIAZA can't really afford to throw their weight around with certain collections for fear of losing animals from the program?

I actually shudder at the list of rare and difficult-to-breed animals suggested for twycross......I don't think their breeding record is all that good, they just HAVE lots of rare species (many ageing rapidly).
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I actually shudder at the list of rare and difficult-to-breed animals suggested for twycross......I don't think their breeding record is all that good, they just HAVE lots of rare species (many ageing rapidly).
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Haven't they bred the Phayre's langur or am i getting it confused with another langur species maybe?? What species is the elderly female langur that twycross holds, isn't she the only one of her kind outside of Asia
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Old 02-04-2008

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Haven't they bred the Phayre's langur or am i getting it confused with another langur species maybe?? What species is the elderly female langur that twycross holds, isn't she the only one of her kind outside of Asia
You are definitely confusing her with another langur species. The Phayre's langur at Twycross is an elderly female with little hope of ever getting a companion from overseas. The species' home range is Bangladesh, Burma, China, India, Thailand, and Vietnam. Not sure which part of SE Asia the Twycross' Phayre's is from ...

Twycross Zoo currently breeds both Javan silvered langur and Dusky langur.
Does anyone have any photos or exhibit drawings from the above mentioned species on file for us?
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Twycross Zoo currently breeds both Javan silvered langur and Dusky langur.
Does anyone have any photos or exhibit drawings from the above mentioned species on file for us?
I think I have a video of the dusky langurs...
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Twycross Zoo currently breeds both Javan silvered langur and Dusky langur.
Does anyone have any photos or exhibit drawings from the above mentioned species on file for us?
Dusky langur


Javan langur

They have 2 groups of this species, both have black and red individuals.

The langur house has 4 enclosures for these 2 species, the very old female Phayre's and purple faced langurs (just two young individuals last week, I assume they have lost the old pair which originally came from Belfast I think). The outdoor enclosures are quite roomy, with glass windows and a wooden barrier between each pair. They have grass floors and are well furnished with vertical and horizontal branches and with ropes. The indoor cages are very small, which is the way Twycross have always kept their monkeys.

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Do you know how many dusky langurs they have? How many adults, how many infants? I am still trying to find out where Burgers Zoo/Arnhem will get dusky langurs from; they are building a big enclosure for them in their new asian area "Rimba". There are so few dusky langurs in Europe that I am half-convinced they will come from Singapore or another asian zoo or rescue center...
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The langur house has 4 enclosures for these 2 species, the very old female Phayre's and purple faced langurs (just two young individuals last week, I assume they have lost the old pair which originally came from Belfast I think). The outdoor enclosures are quite roomy, with glass windows and a wooden barrier between each pair. They have grass floors and are well furnished with vertical and horizontal branches and with ropes. The indoor cages are very small, which is the way Twycross have always kept their monkeys.

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The indoor quarters also have heated floors and this is where the Phayre's Langur spends most of the time. As gentle lemur has already said, Twycross has many of these buildings around the site (Langur house, Lemur house, gibbon compex, old world monkeys, monkeys of the amazon etc).
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Do you know how many dusky langurs they have? How many adults, how many infants? I am still trying to find out where Burgers Zoo/Arnhem will get dusky langurs from; they are building a big enclosure for them in their new asian area "Rimba". There are so few dusky langurs in Europe that I am half-convinced they will come from Singapore or another asian zoo or rescue center...
ISIS lists 1.5 which seems about right from my last visit. I think there is a good mix of younger and older animals in that group as well...
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ISIS lists 1.5 which seems about right from my last visit. I think there is a good mix of younger and older animals in that group as well...
Dusky Langur... is this the same species which used to be called(at least at Twycross) Spectacled Langur? They look the same and if so Twycross have been keeping and breeding them successfully a very long time, almost since the earliest days of the zoo. I remember photos of mothers clutching their orange babies in their early guide books. I don't know if the current animals are multi- generation descendants of their originals? -that's if they're one and the same species..
 


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