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Old 22-01-2012

Unfortunately I have not been since the new Macaw aviary was built, but I believe the old one now has a mixed Parrot collection? Whatever, I love that aviary - it looks like a proper zoo exhibit.

In a previous WMZ thread I got into a lenghty disagreement about the Gibbon and Spider Monkey cages, so I'll just say that I like them even if no one else does. Again, to my middle-aged and increasingly nostalgic eye, proper zoo cages.

On a sombre note, my association newsletter arrived this morning and I was very sorry to learn of the death of Mrs Margaret Jackson. Thank-you Mrs Jackson for all you did in helping to create, develop and administer the WMZ.
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Old 23-01-2012

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I'm not a huge fan of the sea lion enclosure, although the underwater viewing is a positive it's a little industrial for my tastes. There are much worse though, I'll grant you.
You should have seen the original - posted below

I worked there for seven years leaving in the mid-1980's. I think it's a nice collection with a stunning location. I have very fond memoirs of working there. And it was also sad to hear of the death of Mrs Jackson whose husband Robert set-up the zoo many years ago. He was also the co-founder of Marineland in Morecambe.

When I was there we did start to also bred the sea lions and also started to successfully operate a seal rescue and rehab project which continues today with now a small purpose built unit.

And over the years the zoo has developed; it's biggest problem is the limited season to be honest which impacts on revenue. Many other collections in a similar situation has gone to the wall so I think this is a compliant to the management that they have tried to set themselves achievable goals over the years and still remain in business.
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You should have seen the original - posted below
Thank you for the picture, I vaguely remember that from visits as I was growing up. There was an episode of Treasure Hunt filmed at the zoo in 1985, I think, which occasionally gets a repeat on one of the fringe satellite channels. You might have still been there at the time, and I recall the sea lion pool - or was it the penguins - having something to do with the clue.
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Thank you for the picture, I vaguely remember that from visits as I was growing up. There was an episode of Treasure Hunt filmed at the zoo in 1985, I think, which occasionally gets a repeat on one of the fringe satellite channels. You might have still been there at the time, and I recall the sea lion pool - or was it the penguins - having something to do with the clue.
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Actually it was Penny the chimp as regards the clue.
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That's it! Thank you for uploading it (in 2007). So much of the zoo looks exactly the same, with the exception of the sea lion pool, of which one gets a brief glimpse.
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As for enclosures I think are more than suitable ... chimps [maybe a bit more vegetation, but I've seen far worse enclosures
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The chimp enclosure could be better, but it could be a lot worse. Remember I said that these exhibits were suitable, not necessarily excellent.
Talk about being damned by faint praise! Once again we have the argument "It could be worse" used to defend sub-standard (I've not been for many years but you've not convinced me otherwise) zoo exhibits.
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Talk about being damned by faint praise! Once again we have the argument "It could be worse" used to defend sub-standard (I've not been for many years but you've not convinced me otherwise) zoo exhibits.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not using 'it could be worse' to defend the enclosure, just pointing out that it isn't the worst and that while it isn't a palace by any means, I think it is suitable for their size group . It's not a bad size, they have climbing [and the best view that any chimpanzee has ] and they have a good family group. My only complaint is the lack of vegetation, but that's not always possible with apes having a habit of pulling it all up.
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I visited this zoo a few times in the 80s and on reading this post I was reminded of the hair raising drive, up the hills in first gear and the fear that the clutch was going to snap.
But even then it was a nice zoo (of its time) with some interesting animals and great views all round. They did a raptor flying display and had good exhibits for eagles. I also remember that the chimps were in a big cage which was a bit outdated even then, but they were in good condition and seemed reasonably content.
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military macaws planned, red chested lemur is in from edinburgh, extension to the gibbons enclosure is planned also.

If you guys are so fussed about the states of some cages, try donating. Nagging gets you no where in life The money for the lemur enclosure was partly donated.
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military macaws planned.
Good news, but I hope the hybrids are staying.
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If you guys are so fussed about the states of some cages, try donating.
We do that when we pay to go in through the gate. The standard of zoo exhibits should not depend on philanthropic gestures.
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We do that when we pay to go in through the gate. The standard of zoo exhibits should not depend on philanthropic gestures.
Unlike some other zoo's such as Chester, WMZ heavily relies upon the summer season to pay for its existance all year round. The winter months are practically dead (which happens to be the best time to go).

It all depends on what youd rather, a zoo with a few off par exhibits, but another thing to note is the animals are not unhappy. The opposite obviously there being no zoo with therefore less animals in the world.

This is never a real excuse, but things could be alot worse in terms of animal welfare. Make sure to visit this summer, providing Jakes enclosure is extended, the lemurs are out and about in their new enclosure it'll not fail to provide you with a good day out.
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Good news, but I hope the hybrids are staying.
Yes i believe so, the military macaws are going to be in the display with the blue and gold macaws.
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We do that when we pay to go in through the gate. The standard of zoo exhibits should not depend on philanthropic gestures.
Also theres the fact that expansion can progress at a faster rate with charitable increased funds, WMZ doesnt rely upon donations in the slightest, It just makes things easier The emphasis atm from what i gather is to increase the capability of the zoo to welcome guests with the remodelling of the front entrance from 2 to 3 gates, which is a big job in itself.

There is also the need to replace the reptile and alligators houses, and then move the childrens farm ( i hear to the camels, with the camels moving down to the deer paddock which will need stables).

The list is on going...

So, how about that donation?
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Also theres the fact that expansion can progress at a faster rate with charitable increased funds, WMZ doesnt rely upon donations in the slightest, It just makes things easier The emphasis atm from what i gather is to increase the capability of the zoo to welcome guests with the remodelling of the front entrance from 2 to 3 gates, which is a big job in itself.

There is also the need to replace the reptile and alligators houses, and then move the childrens farm ( i hear to the camels, with the camels moving down to the deer paddock which will need stables).

The list is on going...

So, how about that donation?
I agree, whilst it is easy to say that parts of WMZ are inadequate, nobody on here seems too interested in trying to do anything about it. The zoo have been raising funds for a new tropical house for at least my last 3-4 visits (so 3-4 years at least) and STILL they haven't reached the target amount.

I have to admit that I haven't donated as my current circumstances mean I can't afford to at the moment, but I visit at least once a year if I can and I highly encourage others to visit.

These plans sound very interesting and I hope that they become a reality
 


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