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Sumatran Orangutans extinct within weeks?
Old 12-04-2012

Did a search and couldnt find anything so sorry if this has already been posted.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/break...-1226313009487
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I think your title is slightly misleading. I don't think the article is saying they will be extinct within weeks. The way I read it, it suggested that is a large population in one area would be wiped out, not the entire population of wild Sumatran orangutans.

Obviously this is still not good news!

If only people knew the reality behind the production of palm oil and got behind campaigns and boycotted palm oil products.
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Might be misleading but to be honest people dont give a **** until its too late. i honestly doubt there is a single person on this site that leads a palm oil free life. not blaming people, its a near impossibility.
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Also the dwindling rainforests are already struggling to feed the animals living there. orangs arent anti social by choice, its due to a lack of food. it is likely that starvation will cause their extinction.
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A bit misleading on the title, (however it got my attention so good title!) but still an ecological and conservational disaster. Loosing one of the few remaining fragmented populations of these Orang-utans should be seen globally as a disaster, sadly it is not. It certainly appears to me that apart from some of us lot on here and a small percentage of the human population, that the rest really donít care or care enough to do anything about it. Itís not just the Orang-utans, it is the whole ecosystem that is disappearing for good.

In my household we have no Palm Oil products, if you really want to help stop deforestation in Sumatra then stop using palm oil.
Those of you who say I only use it in Ďthis or that and I try to cut downí just cannot care enough in my opinion, just try to cut it out of your life over a few weeks and see how you get on and good luck with it. If it is in something you use or eat, think of the Orangs and you will probably decide that you donít really need to use it after all.
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The title is meant as a question. i read three different articles on this and linked the wrong one. The title is a quote from a.japanese version i read.

In Australia Palm oil is only labelled as vegetable oil. hopefully labelling will soon become compulsory but here we just dont know what we are eating.

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In Australia Palm oil is only labelled as vegetable oil. hopefully labelling will soon become compulsory but here we just dont know what we are eating.
In Australia do you not have access to Sunflower oil or Rape seed oil? both are excellent altrnatives. Here in the UK Sunflower oil is about the same price as 'vegetable oil' and rape seed is a little more expensive.
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In Australia do you not have access to Sunflower oil or Rape seed oil? both are excellent altrnatives. Here in the UK Sunflower oil is about the same price as 'vegetable oil' and rape seed is a little more expensive.
what Jarkari means is that the ingredients listed on products (such as biscuits, for example) don't say "palm oil" they simply say "vegetable oil" so you don't know which oil the product contains.
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what Jarkari means is that the ingredients listed on products (such as biscuits, for example) don't say "palm oil" they simply say "vegetable oil" so you don't know which oil the product contains.
This is a problem in the UK as well. I can't imagine it would be too difficult to legislate to force palm oil to be identified but there doesn't seem to be a political will for it, despite numerous campaigns on the subject.
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There was an attempt to make it compulsory in the EU I think but of course it got nowhere.
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This is a problem in the UK as well. I can't imagine it would be too difficult to legislate to force palm oil to be identified but there doesn't seem to be a political will for it, despite numerous campaigns on the subject.
Sainsbury's supermarket lists palm oil on its own brand products when it is used and because of this I buy a lot more own brand products (that don't contain palm oil), simply because I know which oil is being used.

Biscuits are a real problem in my experience.
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what Jarkari means is that the ingredients listed on products (such as biscuits, for example) don't say "palm oil" they simply say "vegetable oil" so you don't know which oil the product contains.
I see, with you now.

However, as a non biscuit muncher apart from the odd home made one and the fact that for the last few years I have stayed away from virtually all processed food and eat fresh veg and fresh meat it makes it easier for me to cut it out completely (and also I admit to forget about these packaged foods containing palm oil as well). Also my partner has made a real effort with regards to make-up products and creams etc, by checking their ingredients.

However in the last couple of years many companies as listed above are starting to move in the right direction with concise labelling of ingredients.
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Good effort Pootle on the palm oil front! I too try my very best but it is always likely to slip in somewhere.

Could you possibly list or PM me some of the cosmetics your wife uses that are palm oil free as my girlfriend finds it really hard to find. Also any other common household products would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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I was shocked the other day to see a list of pseudonyms for palm oil on lables, this is not the list I was looking at but is a partial list.

Palm Oil’s Dirty Secret: The Many Ingredient Names For Palm Oil Rainforest Action Network Blog
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Good effort Pootle on the palm oil front! I too try my very best but it is always likely to slip in somewhere.

Could you possibly list or PM me some of the cosmetics your wife uses that are palm oil free as my girlfriend finds it really hard to find. Also any other common household products would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You cannot do it over night at all, but you can do it. I am not 100% clear of the stuff, as if eating out you never really know do you?

I will ask the missus for some of her new products and PM over the next week or so gladly.
 


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