European elephants

13-05-2008

Who is Alexander? what zoo has this bull, are there any pics of him on the forum?

13-05-2008

Well, it's all a matter of taste. Yes Sammy is the most beautiful bull of The Netherlands, but Radza is still impressive to me. And he is so gentle! Never aggresive, and always friendly to the other bulls. Last Sunday I saw Letsongmon walking underneath his chin, and as ususal Radza just lifted his head a little to pass him through.

If there are some elephants born in Amersfoort and Sammy is back, I hope to see him as gentle as Radza. Or as Nikolai! Shortly after the birth of Yindee this bull was baby sitting while the mother and aunt Win Thida were standing aside. He runs after Yindee, played with her, etc. Even when the two were out of side mother Thong Tai didn't react. Only after some minutes she slowly walks to the bulls enclosure to look after her daughter.

13-05-2008

Temporarely standing in Amersfoort Zoo.

13-05-2008

Apparently Bindu is Europes second largest Bull, height of 3.15 meters and about 5.5 tons. Though america's largest bull Oregon zoo's Packy is 6340kgs and almost 3.2 meters.

But no bull comes close to Radza, not even the royal elephants of Kerala. He is near the size of the great Raja Gaj, world's largest asian elephant, currently presumed dead.

13-05-2008

From what I have read on the net Raja Gaj is in a class on his own in terms of size and weight

13-05-2008

MARK, Alexander was born in Ramat Gan (Tele Aviv) zoo to the bull Motek and cow Warda, he has one tusk. Quite a large bull as well. And has lots of offspring, 13 inculding the ones not born yet. Stole this one from your site UntBwe.

Taken in 2005 so his tusk has grown a bit (only close up i could find)

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13-05-2008

When will this exhibit be complete? What theme will it have?
Does this mean that this one is built for 45 elephants? (sarcasm)

13-05-2008

Though i do think it is a matter of opinion on what bull looks the best, i do agree
that Sammy will look great in the future a magnificent bull. Siam was an amazing sight, you take great photos Jwer.

13-05-2008

Thanks for that Dragon

13-05-2008

Yes 45 elephants!

The opening of the new park is scheduled for 2014/2015.

14-05-2008

As large as Lampang's camp.

14-05-2008

By that time the older cows will be thrity, they will have Ma Ya Yee, Ma Palai and Mingalar Oo as prime breeders, and the enclosure is made for 45 elephants, will there be importation of new elephants?
And Radza by then will start to become non-productive, any further news?

14-05-2008

Radza should have a few more reproductive years in him yet

14-05-2008

The 45 elephants was a joke! I don't think that they will have more then 20.

In 2014 Emmen will hopely have more female offspring by Radza. Shwe Zin is 7 then, so still young enough to have Radza - her father - in the neighbourhood.

And who's says that elephant bulls will stop mating at the age of 48? Motek of Ramat Gan (Israel) is 48 and had his last calf 2 years ago. Le Petite, the mother of that calf (La Belle) is 23, so Motek can still mate her. Chieng Mai of Copenhagen is 49 en also had his last calf two years ago.

So, if Radza still lives then, and is healthy he still can have some offspring.

14-05-2008

Yeah thats what i thought, but then again i thought you were serious a one point (silly me) yes i'm familar with those bulls, its just every bull is different but in general bulls stop mating beyond 45 years apparently to many picture book information but Radza doesn't have any competition, (The wild and zoo are different, i can't use common sense sometimes!) hope he can have more offspring, such a beautiful specimen.

I have a bet that the next calf will be female, if you look Radza's descendants they have gone girl,boy ,girl ,boy. So there is a high chance that luck may come into play,