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  #196
Old 14-05-2008

Where the h** do you have the information from that "bulls in generally stop mating beyond 45"?! That is wrong. There are elephant bulls in zoos who sired calves after their 45th birthday - Motek/Ramat Gan, Chieng Mai/Kopenhagen, Siam/Paris. Most importantly, research from the Amboseli elephant project proves that bulls over 40 are the MOST sucessful breeders! Even those bulls who are 50+ don`t stop mating, unless they are in very bad physical condition (shortly before death for example).
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Old 15-05-2008

Very few male animals of any species (including humans..) lose the urge to mate until very shortly before senility/death. There is certainly no cut-off date. I suppose in wild situations there may be an age limit after which males at least of certain species become less successful breeders, due to being deposed in the mating stakes by younger or stronger males, but its not due to lack of interest...
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Old 15-05-2008

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Very few male animals of any species (including humans..) lose the urge to mate until very shortly before senility/death. There is certainly no cut-off date. I suppose in wild situations there may be an age limit after which males at least of certain species become less successful breeders, due to being deposed in the mating stakes by younger or stronger males, but its not due to lack of interest...
That's good to know! As the resident silverback we'll take your word for it...
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Old 15-05-2008

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Where the h** do you have the information from that "bulls in generally stop mating beyond 45"?! That is wrong. There are elephant bulls in zoos who sired calves after their 45th birthday - Motek/Ramat Gan, Chieng Mai/Kopenhagen, Siam/Paris. Most importantly, research from the Amboseli elephant project proves that bulls over 40 are the MOST sucessful breeders! Even those bulls who are 50+ don`t stop mating, unless they are in very bad physical condition (shortly before death for example).
Haven't i already explained myself Yassa, i'm not trying to get on your bad side,
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Very few male animals of any species (including humans..) lose the urge to mate until very shortly before senility/death. There is certainly no cut-off date. I suppose in wild situations there may be an age limit after which males at least of certain species become less successful breeders, due to being deposed in the mating stakes by younger or stronger males, but its not due to lack of interest...
Yes, older elephant bulls in the wild are replaced by younger and stronger ones. So, the older bulls simply can not mate because of losing his high rank. It's not said that it is a physical problem!
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Old 15-05-2008

Untbwe is always the problems solver, cheers.
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Old 16-05-2008

Does anyone know any other pregnant asian cows in europe than these?:

Khaing Phyo Phyo of Antwerp, 04/2009
Yashoda of Hamburg, 11/2008
Thong Tai of Amsterdam 04/2009?
And Douanita of Rotterdam 01/2009.
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Old 16-05-2008

Thura of Hamburg, 05-06/2009!
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Old 16-05-2008

We're waiting for the official announcment of the probable pregnancies of the four ladies of Amersfoort
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Old 16-05-2008

Would that be the same sire for all the four babies?
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Old 16-05-2008

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Would that be the same sire for all the four babies?

Yes, Alexander is visiting Amersfoort right now, just for mating the four.
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Old 16-05-2008

thanks guys
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Old 16-05-2008

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We're waiting for the official announcment of the probable pregnancies of the four ladies of Amersfoort
Do you know when the zoo will test the females? I think if any of them are pregnant it would most likely be Jula or Chit Mi Mi apparently he mates with those two more often. Thus making a higher chance of a pregnancy.
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Old 16-05-2008

Jula was the last elephant Alexander could mate.

I think the elephants were already tested but maybe they will do some more tests to be sure. Amersfoort had a very unpleasent experience last year with the birth and death of the baby of Indra, and they probably are not telling the public if and when a baby can be expected until they are 200% sure.
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Old 17-05-2008

Hopefully Amersfoort will experince a least one calf. (That is alive,)
 


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