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Discussion in 'Austria' started by Jobovc, 7 Jul 2019.

  1. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    You would think (or at least hope) that someone with sufficient specialist interest to make a booking in the first place would have some modicum of decorum and respect :( but alas, no. I imagine it might have some cross-over with the fact that it is currently skiing season, and hence a lot more casual tourists will be visiting Salzburg and hearing about WdG.

    As someone aiming to revisit within the next couple of months, I'd be sorry if nationality restrictions do have to be put in place - but I definitely don't blame you for looking into the possibility that such measures will be required!
     
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    That'd make sense, isn't it common practice to do so for bookings anyways?
     
  3. MRJ

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    Very rude but it happens. With us it is mostly another nationality, won't mention which. Our policy is payment with booking, and we have a 24 hour cancellation policy. (full refund if cancelled with 24+ hours notice, none for less or no-shows). Applying the policy to one nationality only may be in breach of anti-discrimination laws.
     
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    We had a prepayment booking option before, but that was not cost-effective and made things more complicated.
    Ubi non accusator, ibi non iudex.
     
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    It has happened before without any relation to skiing season. And even during skiing season, visitors from other nations don't show this lack of good manners, at least not in this frequency.
    Arabian, Turkish and visitors from some African / Middle Eastern nations have a similar tendency to not show up or run late, but not to that English extent. Wheras Italians, French, Spanish etc., who usually have a certain reputation to be usually not on time, have always been punctual so far.
    English people also seem to be the only ones openly bewildered that Austrians, Germans and the Swiss consider it rude and disrespectful to show up late without any prior apology.
    What really pisses me off is that they deliberately enter incorrect telephone numbers or email addresses in their booking request so that I can’t even reach them for final confirmation. And when they show up late (and they pretty much always do), they expect to stay for an extended time afterwards, even if the next group of visitors is visibly waiting. Is that a cultural thing? Like Germans showing up way too early or insisting on their change down to the very last cent?
    I might just simply ignore future booking requests coming from English visitors; if they are serious, they might show up anyway. Or I will only accept their requests after paying beforehand via a special prepayment link.
    I'll make an exception for you @TeaLovingDave and other English ZooChatters if you contact me personally beforehand. But I'm just surprised how a nation can function, and even build up a global empire, with such unreliable citizens...
     
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  6. TeaLovingDave

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    Yeah, that's very much beyond the pale - and rather suggests an intention to not fulfill the booking all along :(

    I suppose it would have been hard for the places subjugated by the British Empire to ward it off if they couldn't reliably predict when to expect their forces!
     
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    They would have just had to attack during teatime and the weekend; worked wonders for Julius Caesar. ;)
     
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    Of course, until they do.
     
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    Clearly, if someone gives you the wrong contact details, then yes of course they are not serious and you should ignore them.

    English people know to turn up on time for the theatre or the football, they know that if they arrive late they miss out, and they know when it is over they have to go. There is something else going on here.

    I went onto your website, and a Google pop-up appeared offering an English translation, which of course I clicked as I don't speak German. The translated site, which looks equally professional to the German original, was very frustrating. It was not at all clear to me what you were offering, whether you were selling only tours or whether i was just buying admission. I went to the FAQ, questions were in English, answers were in German. I can imagine that some might be so frustrated by the site, they may deliberately send false information as an "up yours".

    My advise would be to get rid of that pop-up, if you can. Either way, I would include an English language page, linked from a button at the top of the home page, clearly outlining what your offer is.
     
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  10. Batto

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    For that, the theoretical accuser would require a deeper insight into our internal booking system - which is rather implausible.

    Thanks for the check and the hint. The Google pop-up is not visible for us regionally. I'll have a word with my IT guy to see what can be done.
    But it still doesn't explain why mainly the English tourists are so unreliable. The "up yours" theory does not make sense in regard to the comments they send us when booking, like explicitly referring to the Salzburg Card discount. I think that at least some of them are just trying to cover all the attractions offered by said card during their stay in Salzburg and if they don't make it, they just nonchalantly assume "Nah, it will be fine not to show up".
    It is not always possible to check the correctness of the contact details entered in the booking form.
    My future plan would be to send a link with a pre-payment option to foreign tourists enquiring a booking . The booking will only be confirmed once the amount has been paid. Let's see if this solves the problem.
     
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    That sounds entirely fair to me, as someone with British nationality hoping to one day visit your collection. If I cannot be bothered to let you know 24 hours before I can't come, I don't deserve a refund. (I would get in touch with you beforehand regardless, as a Zoochatter :).)
     
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    I'm always looking for more enrichment for my very silly western hognose snake, who seems to identify as a gecko or some other arboreal animal, so I give him things to climb as his main enrichment. Seems like he would enjoy that thing. Is that something custom made/ homemade/ able to order?
     
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    No, it's a behavioural enrichment element for dogs made by a Danish company.
     
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    I've recently obtained 0.2. adult Atheris broadleyi from a private keeper. Once their quaratine time is over, I'll introduce them to my male. Maybe WdG'll be the first zoo to not only showcase, but also breed this species.
     
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    Out of curiosity, do you have eyelash viper in your collection?
     
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    Yes. Given the new taxonomic split, most likely 0.1. Bothriechis nigroadspersus (fka schlegeli). Just check out our ZTL entry; it's pretty accurate.
     
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    Species list (April 2024)

    Snakes
    Agkistrodon contortix
    Ahaetulla prasina
    Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus
    Atheris broadleyi
    Bitis gabonica
    Bothriechis nigroadspersus/schlegeli
    Bothrops erythromelas
    Bungarus candidus
    Cerastes cerastes
    Crotalus basilicus
    Crotalus ornatus
    Crotalus pyrrhus
    Crotalus vegrandis
    Dendroaspis angusticeps
    Echis coloratus
    Heterodon nasicus
    Lampropeltis knoblochi
    Lampropeltis mexicana x ruthveni
    Naja annulifera
    Naja haje
    Naja nivea
    Naja siamensis
    Naja sumatrana
    Ophiophagus hannah
    Oxyuranus microlepidotus
    Pantherophis "lindheimeri"
    Rhabdophis tigrinus
    Trimerusurus insularis
    Trimerusurus venustus
    Vipera ammodytes ammodytes
    Vipera aspis
    Vipera seoanei
    Xenodon pulcher

    Lizards
    Heloderma exasperatum
    Heloderma suspectum

    Amphibians
    Dendrobates tinctorius azureus
    Dyscophus guineti
    Incilius alvarius
    Phyllobates terribilis
    Pleurodeles nebulosus
    Rhinella marina
    Taricha granulosa
    Xenopus sp.

    Fish
    Corydoras sterbai
    Corydoras metallus
    Platydoras armatulus
    Tetraodon schouteni

    Spiders
    Ceratogyrus darlingi
    Latrodectus elegans
    Latrodecus mactans
    Latrodectus menavodi
    Latrodectus obscurior
    Latrodectus tredecimguttatus
    Lasiodora parahybana
    Loxosceles laeta
    Monocentropus balfouri
    Phoneutria fera
    Pterinochilus murinus
    Sicarius terrosus
    Theraposa apophysis
    Tliltocatl albopilosus
    Trichonephila inaurata madagascariensis

    Scorpions
    Alpiscorpius germanus
    Androctonus australis
    Hadogenes troglodytes
    Heterometrus selenus
    Hottentotta jayakari
    Hottentotta judaicus
    Leiurus quinquestriatus
    Parabuthus villosus
    Scorpio maurus

    Insects & Myriapoda
    Archimandrita tesselata
    Archispirotreptus gigas
    Neoponera apicalis
    Platymeris biguttatus
     
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    Looks good, although it took a while to load for me.
     
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