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DeBrazza's Guenon at Twycross 27/02/11

DeBrazza's Guenon at Twycross 27/02/11
Maguari, 27 Feb 2011
    • Maguari
      Cercopithecus neglectus

      One of a group of 1.2 arrived this week from Port Lympne.
    • Pertinax
      I'm wondering if this is the 'subgroup' which were living in one of the old-style cages at Port Lympne, rather than part of the larger group.
      Good to see them at Twycross again after such a long interval, as this was the main Guenon species they've been missing- but I hope they can carry on breeding from them...
    • Maguari
      Would certainly be nice to see some guenon breeding at Twycross (honestly can't remember the last Cercopithecus birth there).

      The only other thing I know about these individuals is that they are parents and daughter.
    • Pertinax
      If I remember rightly the 'subgroup' was an unrelated pair plus two(?) offspring- living in one of the enclosures between Palace of the Apes and the Malay Tapir building. Maybe its them, maybe not.;) (There's another family, about 5 animals-2 parents + young at Howletts but evidently this isn't them)
    • robmv

      By my reckoning, the last successful guenon birth at Twycross was a Crowned Guenon born in 1999 (another Crowned Guenon in 2000 and a L'Hoest's in 2005 failed to survive). During this period, Twycross have kept 12 guenon taxa (all, I believe, in potential breeding situations):

      • Allen's Swamp Monkey (Allenopithecus nigroviridis) - honorary guenon
      • Red-tailed Guenon (Cercopithecus ascanius)
      • Schmidt's Guenon (Cercopithecus ascanius schmidti)
      • Whiteside's Guenon (Cercopithecus ascanius whitesidei)
      • Diana Monkey (Cercopithecus diana)
      • Hamlyn's Guenon (Cercopithecus hamlyni)
      • L'Hoest's Guenon (Cercopithecus lhoesti)
      • Lowe's Guenon (Cercopithecus lowei)
      • De Brazza's Guenon (Cercopithecus neglectus) - we'll let them off that one!
      • Lesser Spot-nosed Guenon (Cercopithecus petaurista)
      • Crowned Guenon (Cercopithecus pogonias)
      • Roloway Monkey (Cercopithecus roloway)
      World Primate Centre?
    • Maguari
      Thanks Rob! No wonder I couldn't remember when the last one was if it was 12 years ago.
    • Maguari
      WELL...

      Today there was a small cage inside the De Brazzas' indoor exhibit containing a very small monkey that I couldn't see clearly as the cage was triple- or quadruple-meshed. But judging from its movement and what I could see of its appearance, it may well be a young De Brazza (presumably being hand-reared). It could be another species, but if so I don't see why it would be kept within the De Brazzas' exhibit. Have Twycross broken their guenon breeding curse? Time will tell.
    • Pertinax
      If they have, its by using a newly-imported group(the De Brazzas) from another zoo, and not from any of their long established pairs/groups of Guenons. I don't think its so much a curse as unsuitable management- elderly animals/no privacy etc which are preventing many of these Monkeys from producing young anymore.

      Its a pretty abysmal record when you consider the timespan and the number of species they keep. Not to mention the 'WPC' tag.:(
    • Maguari
      This is all very true - and given that the group brought in were parents and daughter it's presumably even a pre-existing breeding pair established at another zoo! But at least it would be something!
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