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  1. alfiethetortois

    alfiethetortois Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Like the look of this years challenge. Haven't seen any yet, but notepad is at the ready!
     
  2. alfiethetortois

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    I've just been looking on Zootiweliste and note that South Lakes Wild Animal park/Safari zoo do hold an Andean Condor that isn't listed.
     
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    If memory serves the animal in question passed away late last year.
     
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    My total is exactly the same as Zoogiraffe's.
     
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    I thought Hannes the Andean condor moved to a zoo in Germany? Did they only have one? Hoping to hit muncaster castle sometime soon
     
  6. TeaLovingDave

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    You best get to Muncaster as soon as possible then! :)
     
  7. Shorts

    Shorts Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Correctamundo!
     
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    One last question, what about displays? I remember last year seeing a falconry display at Dudley and they had a Harris hawk and a Peregrine, neither of which the zoo has, on show at least.

    Do they count?
     
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    Believe they do, as long as they have been seen during opening hours and in a public viewing situation.
     
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    Shorts Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Spot on (answer & logic)!
     
  11. adrian1963

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    I have been looking on Zootierliste and have found the following collections some small I know but these are the ones I hope to visit with the help of a friend

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    01 WARWICK CASTLE FALCONRY
    02 RAPTOR FOUNDATION (WOODHURST)
    03 THE HAWK CONSERVATORY (WEYHILL)
    04 BAYTREE OWL CENTRE (WESTON)
    05 SUFFOLK OWL SANCTUARY (STONHAM ASPAL)
    06 SCREECH OWL SANCTUARY (ST COLUMB)
    07 CHESHIRE FALCONRY CENTRE (SANDIWAY)
    08 FALCONRY & OWL CENTRE (RUTLAND)
    09 LIBERTY’S RAPTOR & REPTILE CENTRE (RINGWOOD)
    10 CENTRE FOR BIRDS OF PREY (NEWENT)
    11 COTSWOLD FALCONRY CENTRE (MORETON-IN-MARSH)
    12 LAKELAND FALCONRY CENTRE (LOWTHER)
    13 GAUNLET BIRDS OF PREY (KNUTSFORD)
    14 BIRDS OF PREY CENTRE (KIELDER)
    15 HUXLEYS BIRD OF PREY CENTRE (HORSHAM)
    16 NEW FORREST OTTER,OWL & WILDLIFE PARK (HAMPSHIRE)
    17 FALCONRY CENTRE (HAGLEY)
    18 INTERNATIONAL CENTRE FOR BIRDS OF PREY (DUNCOMBE)
    19 BEAMISH WILD CENTRE OF BIRDS OF PREY (BEAMISH)
    20 EXMOOR FALCONRY & ANIMAL FARM (ALLERTON)
    21 SCOTTISH OWL CENTRE (WHITBURN - SCOTLAND)
    22 NORTH EAST FALCONRY CENTRE (HUNTLEY - SCOTLAND)
    23 WELSH HAWKING (BARRY- WALES)
    24 WORLD OF OWLS (RANDALSTOWN – NORTHERN IRELAND)
    25 OWL & MONKEY HAVEN (NEWPORT – ISLE OF WIGHT)


    and here is a list of species according to Zootierliste the collections hold

    African Barn Owl*
    African Fish Eagle
    African Goshawk*
    African or banded harrier hawk
    African hawk-eagle
    African Marsh Owl*
    African peregrine falcon*
    African pygmy-falcon*
    African Spotted Eagle-owl
    African white-backed vulture
    African Wood Owl
    American Barn Owl
    American black vulture
    American kestrel or sparrowhawk
    Andean condor
    Aplomado falcon*
    Ashy-faced owl (Ashy-faced barn-owl)
    Bald eagle
    Barbary or Shaheen falcon
    Barred Owl*
    Bateleur eagle
    Bearded Vulture or Lammergeier
    Black goshawk*
    Black shaheen falcon*
    Black-banded Owl*
    Black-chested or chilean blue buzzard-eagle
    Black-shouldered kite*
    Blue-winged Kookaburra
    Boobook Owl
    Booted eagle
    Brahminy kite or Red-backed Sea-eagle
    Brown Wood Owl
    Buffy Fish-owl
    Burrowing Owl
    Cape griffon vulture (Kolbe's vulture)*
    Central European Barn Owl
    Chaco Owl
    Chimango*
    Common Barn Owl
    Common black kite
    Common buzzard
    Common Raven
    Common Scops-owl
    Crested caracara
    Crested serpent eagle (No Subspecific status)*
    Crowned hawk-eagle
    Dark changeable hawk-eagle*
    Desert Eagle-owl
    East European Eagle-owl
    Eastern Egyptian vulture
    Eastern Siberian Eagle-owl*
    Ecuadorian Great Horned Owl
    Eurasian black vulture or Monk vulture
    Eurasian Great Grey Owl
    Eurasian hobby
    Eurasian Long-eared Owl
    Eurasian northern hawk-owl
    Eurasian sparrowhawk
    Eurasian Tawny Owl
    European or White-breasted Barn Owl
    European Boreal Owl
    European Eagle-owl
    European kestrel (Eurasian kestrel)
    Ferruginous hawk (Ferruginous roughleg)
    Ferruginous Pygmy Owl
    Golden eagle
    Great Horned or Tiger Owl
    Greater kestrel or White-eyed kestrel
    Grey hawk or Shining buzzard-hawk
    Gyrfalcon
    Harris' hawk or Bay-winged hawk
    Hartert´s Little Owl or Levant Little Owl
    Himalayan griffon vulture
    Hooded vulture
    Indian Eagle-owl
    Indian Scops-owl
    Indian tawny eagle*
    Jackal buzzard*
    King vulture
    Laggar falcon
    Lanner falcon
    Lappet-faced vulture or Nubian vulture
    Laughing Kookaburra
    Lesser kestrel
    Little banded goshawk or Shikra*
    Little Owl
    Mackinder's Eagle-owl
    Magellan Horned Owl*
    Martial eagle or Martial hawk-eagle
    Merlin or Pigeon hawk
    Mottled Owl
    Mountain caracara
    North African tawny eagle*
    Northern goshawk
    Northern white-faced scops-owl
    Oriental Bay Owl
    Pallid Scops-owl*
    Palm-nut vulture or Vulturine fish-eagle
    Pariah kite*
    Pearl-spotted Owlet
    Peregrine falcon
    Pied crow
    Prairie falcon*
    Red kite
    Red-footed falcon
    Red-legged seriema (Crested seriema)
    Red-naped or Red shaheen falcon
    Red-tailed hawk
    Rueppell's griffon vulture
    Rufous-legged Owl*
    Saker falcon
    Savannah hawk*
    Secretary bird
    Short-eared Owl
    Siberian goshawk*
    Snowy Owl
    Southern crested or Southern caracara
    Southern ground hornbill
    Southern horned owl
    Southern White-faced Scops-owl
    Southern yellow-headed caracara*
    Spectacled Owl
    Spotted Owlet
    Steller's sea eagle
    Steppe eagle or Mongolian tawny eagle
    Striated caracara (Forster's caracara)
    Striped Owl
    Sunda Scops-owl
    Swainson's hawk*
    Tawny eagle
    Tawny frogmouth or Freckled frogmouth
    Tropical Screech Owl
    Turkey vulture
    Turkmenian or Turkestan Eagle-owl
    Ural Owl
    Variable hawk (Red-backed hawk)
    Vermiculated Eagle-owl
    Verreaux's eagle (African black eagle)
    Verreaux's Eagle-owl or Giant Eagle-owl
    Wahlberg's eagle*
    Western eurasian griffon vulture
    Western or European honey-buzzard
    Western Marsh-harrier
    Western Screech Owl
    Western Siberian Eagle-owl
    White-headed vulture
    White-tailed or Grey Sea Eagle
    Yellow-billed kite*
    Yellow-headed caracara

    Well over 130 species this doesn't include any of the larger zoos or the Private collection of Vultures or Owls I will be visiting in August.

    Edit if anyone knows of any of the above species no longer at collections could they please let me know
     
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  12. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    As subspecies do not count towards the final total, even if you visit all of those collections you will not get 130 species. Also you have counted a few species which are not birds of prey at all and thus completely ineligible :p
     
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    This, of course, being why unambiguous definitions are so essential! And in this case surely up to Shorts to define (although I don't think a general "carnivorous birds" challenge would be a particularly good idea!).
     
  14. TeaLovingDave

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    Kookaburra, pied crow and raven are pretty unambiguously ineligible :p
     
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    Well, only if a definition is provided. They are birds that eat prey...
     
  16. adrian1963

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    if the above are ineligible then surely Vultures are too or am I missing something I hope someone can explain please just a question not a complaint.
     
  17. TeaLovingDave

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    Having now visited Kirkleatham Owl Centre for the first time - despite it being only 20 miles or so from me - I have now got the ball rolling.....


    1) African Barn Owl (Tyto alba affinis) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    2) American Barn Owl (Tyto furcata pratincola) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    3) American Black Vulture (Coragyps atratus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    4) American Kestrel (Falco sparverius) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    5) Burrowing Owl (Athene cunicularia) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    6) Common Black Kite (Milvus migrans migrans) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    7) Common Buzzard (Buteo buteo) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    8) Eurasian Great Grey Owl (Strix nebulosa lapponica) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    9) Eurasian Long-eared Owl (Asio otus otus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    10) Eurasian Northern Hawk-owl (Surnia ulula ulula) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    11) Eurasian Sparrowhawk (Accipiter nisus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    12) Eurasian Tawny Owl (Strix aluco) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    13) European Eagle-owl (Bubo bubo bubo) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    14) European Kestrel (Falco tinnunculus tinnunculus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    15) Great Horned Owl (Bubo virginianus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    16) Indian Eagle-owl (Bubo bengalensis) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    17) Snowy Owl (Bubo scandiacus) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    18) Spectacled Owl (Pulsatrix perspicillata) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    19) Striated Caracara (Phalcoboenus australis) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    20) Turkey Vulture (Cathartes aura) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    21) Ural Owl (Strix uralensis) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
    22) Vermiculated Eagle-owl (Bubo cinerascens) at Kirkleatham Owl Centre - 08/01/2015
     
  18. Shorts

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    Blimey! I'm sticking with Tuataras next year, far more straightforward.

    To clarify, for the purposes of this challenge I'm sticking with the "classic" Birds of Prey definition -" birds that have very good eyesight for finding food, strong feet for holding food, and a strong curved beak for tearing flesh".

    Before anyone tries to argue something inappropriate into that definition, it means:

    Accipitridae: hawks, eagles, buzzards, harriers, kites & Old World vultures
    Pandionidae: the osprey
    Sagittariidae: the secretary bird
    Falconidae: falcons, caracaras and forest falcons
    Cathartidae: New World vultures
    Strigidae: typical owls
    Tytonidae: barn and bay owls.

    Apologies to any taxonomists out there if the above has mutated since I copied it from wiki. :)
     
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    Many thanks for the clarification no more silly questions from me now.
     
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    After visits to Colchester & Hamerton this weekend, I am hardly off to a flying start in this year's challenge:

    Colchester 10/1/15

    1. King Vulture
    2. Andean Condor
    3. Great Grey Owl

    Hamerton 11/1/15
    4. Hooded Vulture
    5. Ruppells Griffon Vulture
    6. Snowy Owl
    7. Boobook Owl
    8. Burrowing Owl
    9. White Faced Scops Owl
    10. Brown Wood Owl
     
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