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ZooChat Cup Match #40: Whipsnade vs Zurich (4)

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by CGSwans, 11 Apr 2018.

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Birds

Poll closed 14 Apr 2018.
  1. Whipsnade

    3.4%
  2. Zurich

    96.6%
  1. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Whipsnade got here via a comfortable win over Attica, on large carnivores, 7-3 in the lowest-scoring poll so far. Zurich crushed Copenhagen 24-1 on primates, perhaps proving a little lucky to draw a zoo whose major weakness mirrored its own.

    This time? Birds.

    Tomorrow: Berlin Zoo vs Cabarceno.
     
  2. lintworm

    lintworm Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Comfortable win for Zurich with the Malagasy species in the Masoala hall and the high end selection of S-American birds in the Exotarium. They also have more species of birds non-surprisingly than Whipsnade and a higher number of rarities and with the Pitta-like ground roller one of the biggest (and prettiest) rarities in any European zoo. Brolga cranes can't change that ;)
     
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    A zoo with motmot, pitta-like groundroller, crested drongo, Monserrat oriole, purple honeycreeper, king pinguin, African and wattled jacana, M-magpie robin and many other Madagascar rarities, several tanager species, etc. is almost unbeatable.
     
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  4. sooty mangabey

    sooty mangabey Well-Known Member

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    Much as I like Whipsnade, a few penguins, some White Storks and a bird show of variable quality are not going to cut it against the Exotarium - let alone against the rest of the Zurich Zoo. Very one sided....
     
  5. Maguari

    Maguari Never could get the hang of Thursdays. 15+ year member Premium Member

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    Yep, agreed - against Zurich on almost any non-mammal category Whipsnade was a pretty much immediate write-off, sadly.
     
  6. migdog

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    Not been to Zurich, but Whipsnade have very few birds, so I can see this will be a crushing defeat. My vote is for Zurich.
     
  7. pipaluk

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    Zurich was lucky it wasn’t ungulates! Whipsnade can only really compete with most major zoos in that or carnivores!
     
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    At this rate, Chester may be the only UK zoo to get out of this round.
     
  9. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Bristol is already through. Paignton and to a lesser extent Twycross have winnable contests coming up against Paris and Wuppertal, respectively.
     
  10. pipaluk

    pipaluk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    With Twycross though it will depend on category , like Whipsnade it is very strong in one but poor in several!
     
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    My thoughts exactly - though I haven't been to Whipsnade. In the categories of this cup I would rate Zurich as strongest in ectotherms, then birds, carnivores, primates, hoofstock, and last other mammals (they only have very few, 16, other species). So I wouldn't agree with the oft repeated assertion that primates are Zurich's largest weakness in this competition.
     
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    Why did you vote for Whipsnade @pipaluk ?
     
  13. Dassie rat

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    Both: Lesser rhea; European white stork; western cattle egret; bar-headed goose; common eider; white-faced whistling duck; smew; mandarin duck; Indian peafowl; burrowing, Ural and snowy owls

    Whipsnade
    Common ostrich; common emu
    Jackass and northern rockhopper penguins
    Black-faced ibis; little egret
    Caribbean flamingo
    Baer’s pochard; West Indian whistling and maned wood ducks; marbled teal; magpie, emperor, swan and barnacle geese; hooded merganser
    Bataleur eagle; Harris’ hawk; merlin; European kestrel; lanner falcon
    Edward’s pheasant
    Blue, wattled, western black-crowned, eastern grey-crowned and red-crowned cranes; brolga; corncrake
    Blue-and-yellow, scarlet, hyacinth and green military macaws; Honduran amazon; Mitchell’s lorikeet; Congo grey parrot
    White-faced scops owl
    Abyssinian ground, southern Sulawesi and Visayan tarictic and red-billed hornbills
    Blue-crowned and Sumatran laughing thrushes; British red-billed chough; red-billed blue magpie; Emei Shan liocichla; chestnut-backed ground thrush

    Zurich
    Black-necked grebe
    Humboldt and king penguins
    Black stork; little bittern; hamerkop; Panama boat-billed heron; Eurasian spoonbill; Madagascar crested and scarlet ibises; waldrapp
    Chilean flamingo
    Crested screamer; African pygmy, lesser Magellan, Egyptian, lesser white-fronted, red-breasted and blue-winged geese; Baikal, cinnamon, common, falcated, Hottentot, red-billed and Bernier’s teals; Meller’s, Magellan steamer, South American comb and bronze-winged ducks; Chiloe wigeon; spectacled eider; common goldeneye; northern shoveler; rosy-billed pochard; ruddy shelduck; Bewick’s and black-necked swans
    Western Egyptian vulture
    Asian blue quail; crested wood and Madagascar partridges; Himalayan monal; Satyr tragopan; wild turkey
    Demoiselle and white-naped cranes; sunbittern; red-legged seriema; red-and-white crake
    Black-necked stilt; Eurasian oystercatcher; northern and southern lapwings; African and wattled jacanas
    Blue-crowned hanging, greater vasa and black parrots; dusky lory; red-collared, scaly-breasted, rainbow and red-flanked lorikeets; green-winged macaw; sun and lesser Patagonian conure; Lord Derby’s parakeet; Madagascar lovebird
    Diamond, Madagascar turtle and crested quail doves; Luzon bleeding-heart; Madagascar blue pigeon
    Eurasian northern hawk and European pygmy owls
    Green and Senegal turacos
    Crested coua
    White-tailed trogon
    Crowned hornbill; blue-crowned motmot; European bee-eater; pitta-like ground roller
    Channel-billed toucan
    African yellow white-eye; bearded barbet; copper sunbird; European goldfinch; northern and yellow cardinals; orange-breasted bunting; red-billed leiothrix; red-throated parrotfinch; red-whiskered and white-spectacled bulbuls; thick-billed and violaceous euphonias; turquoise, Brazilian, flame-faced and black-necked tanagers; white-crowned robin-chat; Bali mynah; blue-backed and Cuban grassquits; crested drongo; Kilimanjaro and Madgascar white-eyes; Madagascan bilbfinch; Madagascar fody; Madagascar magpie robin; Montserrat oriole; plush-crested jay; purple and red-legged honeycreepers; red siskin; red-crested and saffron finches; ultramarine grosbeak

    Zurich wins as regards variety and number of species, although Whipsnade has a better collection of cranes and raptors.
     
  14. sooty mangabey

    sooty mangabey Well-Known Member

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    How much of that Whipsnade collection is on show? There are tantalising glimpses of things as you go past the old children’s farm, but most remains frustratingly out of sight.
     
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  15. lintworm

    lintworm Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    You actually included the Voliere Mythenquai in your species lists, Zoo Zurich does not keep Hanging parrots, Coppery sunbirds, Turaco and Black-necked stilts among others....
     
  16. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I used the Expert Search to get a list of birds currently kept at Zurich and Whipsnade.
     
  17. lintworm

    lintworm Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    But I guess you used "Zurich" in the search, rather than "Zurich (zoo)", in that case you will have to watch for which collection the species is listed, as that would have included Zurich (Voliere Mythenquai)....

    When looking for "Chester (Zoo) " for example, Colchester (Zoo) is not excluded from the search:
     
  18. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Thanks Lintworm. I didn't know that.