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9 species of mammals, 9 species of birds, 9 species of reptiles. Your choice?

Discussion in 'Fantasy Zoos' started by Nikola Chavkosk, 17 Feb 2016.

  1. FelipeDBKO

    FelipeDBKO Well-Known Member

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    Fossa? Pygmy hippo? Komodo dragon?
     
  2. Kakapo

    Kakapo Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain me why are you quotating me?? Are you asking me something?
     
  3. jayjds2

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    He considers the three species that he quoted you for as "rare", therefore implying that you were contradicting yourself.
     
  4. Kakapo

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    Ah, thanks jayjds, that's explains his message. But, Felipe, why dou you considere them as rare?????? Fossas and komodo dragons are in a lot of zoos, they're some of the commonest animals. Pygmy hippo is a bit more infrequent but still common, I choosed it instead common hippo (easier to get for a new zoo) just because they need a bit less of space.

    Appart from that, I noticed now that people here choosed the rarest and more impossible animals to get for any zoo, contadicting what I think that is the sense of this thread.... Narwhal, leopard seal, pink fairy armadillo, Spix macaw, kakapo, Albert's lyrebird, bornean earless monitor, etc etc...?
     
  5. Nikola Chavkosk

    Nikola Chavkosk Well-Known Member

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    Maybe FelipeDBKO is not well-informed about the status of these animals in zoos in Europe; Zoo animals like these and all zoo animals in general, can be most easily obtained in Europe owning to number of zoo animals (with some exception, in comparison to other regions like for example North America or Australia, like okapis, black rhinos, bongo antelopes, Massai giraffes etc. or koalas or marsupials in general, who would be more easy to be obtained in those regions, respectively); There are approximately 140 pygmy hippos in European zoos (119 on 31 december 2008 : http://eaza.portal.isis.org/activities/cp/yearbook20072008/37_Tapir_Hippo_TAG.pdf ).
     
  6. Kakapo

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    I see that he is Brazilian. Probably all these species are very rare in South American zoos while common in European ones.
     
  7. Duskeh

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    I'm bored, I'm tired, posting something just to see if I can do this kind of thing. Anyways, I'll get right into this.
    Mammals
    Amur leopard cat
    Spanish red deer
    Common eland
    Venezuelan red howler
    Linnaeus' two-toed sloth
    Capybara
    Unstriped tamandua
    Egyptian fruit bat
    Malayan sun bear

    Birds
    Blue and yellow macaw
    Lady Amherst's pheasant
    Scarlet ibis
    Speckled pigeon
    Spotted dove
    American flamingo (Caribbean flamingo)
    Greater Bahama pintail
    Red-billed teal
    Brazilian teal

    Reptiles
    Central American green iguana
    Cuvier's dwarf caiman
    Cuban tree boa
    African spurred tortoise
    Nicaraguan slider
    Blue-tailed monitor
    West African Nile crocodile
    Mexican beaded lizard
    Brazilian rainbow boa

    I used Zootierliste for the "research" I did, so this would probably have to be a European Zoo, though a few of these weren't very common in Europe, but I recognized from several U.S. zoos, so....
     
  8. steveroberts

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    my response

    MAMMALS
    1. Asian Elephant (probably from Thailand/Myanmar/Laos region)
    2. Asian Small Clawed Otter
    3. South African Giraffe
    4. Plains Zebra (share exhibit with Giraffe)
    5. Bengal Tiger
    6. African Lion
    7. Slender-Tailed Meerkat
    8. Cambodian Sun Bear
    9. Lar Gibbon

    REPTILE HOUSE (In Reptile & Amphibian House)
    1. Freshwater Crocodile
    2. American Alligator
    3. Papuan Monitor
    4. Chinese Water Dragon
    5. Rhinoceros Iguana
    6. Boa Constrictor
    7. Albino Ball Python
    8. Scarlett Kingsnake
    9. Murray Short-Neck Turtle

    AMPHIBIANS (In Reptile & House)
    1. Motorbike Frog
    2. White’s Green Tree Frog
    3. Giant Burrowing Frog
    4. Slender Tree Frog
    5. Fowler’s Toad
    6. Purple Toad
    7. Japanese Giant Salamander
    8. Fire Salamander
    9. Alpine Newt

    BIRDS
    1. Double Wattle Cassowary
    2. Blue & Gold Macaw
    3. Scarlett Macaw
    4. Sun Conure
    5. Azure Kingfisher
    6. Chilean Flamingo
    7. Wedge-Tailed Eagle
    8. Indian Ring-Necked Parrot
    9. Long Eared Owl

    FISH & CRUSTACEANS & INSECTS & ARACHNIDS
    I know this is boring and lazy but I would pick nine species that could be part of the diet of the Meerkats, Otters, Alligators, Crocodiles, Monitors, Water Dragons, Salamanders & Bird exhibits etc.

    :)
     
  9. steveroberts

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    oh and also

    ADDITIONAL SIX (If I could after like one or two years of running the zoo)
    Firstly would rather try have Sumatran Tigers than the Bengal subspecies
    1. Sulawesi Crested Macaque
    2. Serval
    3. Clouded Leopard
    4. Brown Hyena
    5. Indian Rhinoceros
    6. Pygmy Marmoset
     
  10. steveroberts

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    make that another additional 9 mammals not 6 lol

    7. Queensland Koala
    8. Goodfellow Tree Kangaroo
    9. Ringtail Lemur
     
  11. Nikola Chavkosk

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    Interesting steveroberts!
    Thanks
     
  12. steveroberts

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    Thanks Nikola :) I think i'm gonna have to change mammal number 18 from Ringtail Lemur to White-Nosed Coati rather
     
  13. JigerofLemuria

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    Alright, lets do this!
    PS: Some might be a bit... undecisive
    - 9 Mammals:
    * Six-banded armadillo
    * White-bellied opossum
    * Crested porcupine
    * Lyle's flying fox
    * Brazilian tapir
    * Reeve's muntjac
    * Cotton-top tamarin
    * red-ruffed lemur
    * Striped hyena
    - 9 Birds:
    * Magellanic penguin/ African penguin
    * Rainbow lorikeet
    * Keel-billed toucan
    * Greater flamingo
    * Southern cassowary
    * Spectacled owl
    * Egyptian vulture
    * Victoria goura
    * Bali mynah
    - 9 Reptiles and amphibians:
    * American crocodile/ Black caiman
    * Mexican beaded lizard
    * Utila iguana
    * Indian rock python
    * Rhinoceros viper
    * Egyptian tortoise
    * Mata mata/ flly river turtle
    * Pacman frog
    * Axolotl
     
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  14. Zygodactyl

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    There's a lot of ways I could go with this (animals I'd like to have but probably won't get; animals that are relatively easy to obtain and care for) but since I've been fantasizing about creating a small zoo with Texas-native wildlife for awhile, I'll go with that.

    Mammals:
    1. Virginia opossum
    2. Nine-banded armadillo
    3. Collared peccary
    4. Pronghorn
    5. Black-tailed prairie dog
    6. Texas kangaroo rat
    7. Texas pocket gopher
    8. Ringtail
    9. Jaguarundi
    Birds:
    1. Burrowing owl
    2. Banded pigeon
    3. Plain chachalaca
    4. Greater prairie chicken
    5. Ringed kingfisher
    6. Lewis's woodpecker
    7. Phainopepla
    8. Mountain bluebird
    9. Northern caracara
    Reptiles:
    1. American alligator
    2. Texas horny toad
    3. Texas alligator lizard
    4. Western slender glass lizard
    5. Regal ringneck snake
    6. Alligator snapping turtle
    7. Diamondback terrapin
    8. Texas spiny softshell turtle
    9. Texas tortoise
     
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  15. Zygodactyl

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    I've also thought of creating a Madagascar-themed mini-zoo. New Zealand, Madagascar, and New Caledonia are home to a disproportionate number of my favorite animals. However while the most interesting animals of New Zealand and New Caledonia are disproportionately birds (all birds in New Caledonia) and most of my favorite New Zealand species aren't in zoos and aren't likely ever to be, most of my favorite Madagascar species are plausible zoo animals. Mind you, these aren't necessarily my favorites; I tried to pick animals that are representative, interesting, and either being bred privately in the US or legal to import.

    Birds:
    1. Cuckoo roller
    2. Crested coua
    3. Crested drongo
    4. Sickle-billed vanga
    5. Yellow-bellied sunbird-asity
    6. Greater vasa parrot
    7. Madagascar lovebird
    8. Pitta-like ground roller
    9. Malagasy turtledove
    Mammals:
    1. Sucker-footed bat
    2. Madagascan fruit bat
    3. Streaked tenrec (either species)
    4. Web-footed tenrec
    5. Tsingy tufted-tail rat
    6. Ring-tailed mongoose
    7. Malagasy civet
    8. Ring-tailed lemur
    9. Red-ruffed lemur
    Reptiles:
    1. Radiated tortoise
    2. Madagascar iguana
    3. Madagascar girdled lizard
    4. Malagasy ground boa
    5. Malagasy leaf-nosed snake
    6. Armored chameleon
    7. Hooded chameleon
    8. Giant day gecko
    9. Satanic leaf-tailed gecko
    With regards to the reptiles, all of these are currently available in the US pet trade, though some are rather expensive. As far as I can tell only the ring-tailed, red-ruffed, and black-and-white-ruffed lemurs are available as pets in the US. The only Madagascar bird species that are definitely available through the pet trade in the US seem to be the greater and lesser vasa parrots, of which the greater vasa is more readily available. The Madagascar lovebird is reportedly kept in aviculture in the US. Though I couldn't find any for sale, I bumped the Malagasy kingfisher from the list in its favor on the grounds that the lovebird is easier to obtain and more unusual-looking compared to its continental relatives.

    All other bird and mammal species would have to be imported or obtained from zoos, so I tried to pick species that represented the diversity of Madagascar's birds and mammals and are interesting to look at. The tsingy tuft-tailed rat would be uniquely tricky. The tuft-tailed rats are IMO the second-most charismatic of Madagascar's native rodents (after the critically endangered giant rat), and I felt that Malagasy rodents should be represented. However the CDC bans the commercial importation of African rodents and I'm not sure they'd consider "I'm starting a mini-zoo and want a representative of Malagasy rodents" to be a legitimate reason for importation.
     
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  16. DragonDust101

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    9 mammals? 9 Birds? 9 Reptiles? Slim Pickings, but I would have to make do. I could easily categorize this into a small mini zoo with one theme, and since we have such slim pickings, why not go with a theme of slim pickings, in a Desert Zoo? I'll even do a design.

    Saharan Oasis
    Mammals-
    Addax
    Scimitar-Horned Oryx
    Anubis Baboon
    African Wild Dog
    Birds-
    Egyptian Ostrich
    Sacred Ibis
    African Fish Eagle
    Yellow Billed Stork
    Reptiles-
    Nile Crocodile
    Egyptian Uromastyx
    Nile Monitor
    Plus some fishes (Nile Perch, Tigerfish, Talapia)

    Arabian Rocks-
    Mammals-
    Hamadryas Baboon
    Nubian Ibex
    Rock Hyrax
    Birds-
    Namaqua Dove
    Reptiles-
    None

    Southern Border-
    Mammals-
    Jaguar
    Ringtail
    Birds-
    Greater Roadrunner
    Burrowing Owl
    Gila Woodpecker
    California Condor
    Reptiles-
    Desert Tortoise
    Desert Iguana
    Texas Bandes Gecko
    Blacktail Rattlesnake
    Gina Monster
    Chuckwallla
     
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  17. SealPup

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    If the OP were serious he would stick to commonly available and popular species at first.

    Mammals
    - short clawed otter
    - fennec
    - pygmy marmoset
    - rock hyrax
    - crested porcupine
    - bushbaby
    - lion
    - ring tailed lemur
    - dwarf mongoose

    Birds
    - rainbow lorikeet (lori landings are popular)
    - striated caracara
    - pied raven
    - white eared turaco
    - barn owl
    - kookaburra
    - peacock pheasant
    - red billed hornbill
    - mandarin duck

    Reptiles
    - african dwarf crocodile
    - gaboon viper
    - coral cobra
    - eyelash pit viper
    - burmese python
    - green anaconda
    - rough necked monitor
    - beaded lizard
    - snake necked turtle

    Amphibians
    - asian horned toad
    - surinam toad
    - dart frog
    - flying frog
    - african bullfrog
    - red eyed treefrog
    - mantella
    - amphiuma
    - siren
     
  18. Batto

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    Coral cobra = Aspidelaps sp. ?
     
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  19. Batto

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    Actually not that difficult to get these days-if you have the money.
     
  20. SealPup

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    Yes, Aspidelaps. Cute.