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  1. animal_expert01

    animal_expert01 Well-Known Member

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    I know I have posted a list on this thread previously but I would like to update my list. I know quite a few will have seen the species on my captive list but has anyone seen any of the species on my wild list?

    Captive
    Julia Creek Dunnart
    Proserpine Rock Wallaby
    Leopard Seal
    Proboscis Monkey
    Bridled Nailtail Wallaby
    Yellow Bellied Glider
    Southern Corroboree Frog

    Wild
    Rufous Bettong**
    Australian Bustard
    Paradise Riflebird
    Mary River Cod
    Banded Plover*
    Black Bittern
    Blind Shark
    Ornate Rainbowfish
    Ragged Snake Eyed Skink
    Elegant Snake Eyed Skink
    Red Kangaroo* **
    Rose Crowned Fruit Dove
    Emu* **
    Spinifex Pigeon
    Leaden Flycatcher
    Emerald Dove
    Australian Pratincole
    Fairy Penguin* **
    Blue Billed Duck
    Major Skink
    Platypus* **
    Comb Crested Jacana

    *means I think quite a few people would have seen them in the wild but I'm asking just in case.
    ** means I have also seen the animal in captivity
     
  2. amur leopard

    amur leopard Well-Known Member

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    That is strange because my grandparents say that they see them very frequently, and when we saw one, quite close up actually, they said ' Oh, it's just a spiny mouse...'

    I wonder how hard IUCN are looking for them... My grandparents also added that they were really quite widespread when we saw one again later on?

    The marmot was really quite interesting and actually quite recent, although, again, since it was a flight there, I couldn't take my camera due to baggage restrictions (don't know how this works, but). Basically, my uncle lives on Vancouver Island on a boat. He essentially told us that there were a few really nice walks on the island. We got a bit off track on one of them around midday and a pair of marmots were just munching on grass about 200 metres away. When my uncle saw them, he got pretty excited and may or may not have just started running towards them. Sadly, before anybody could really get any snaps, the marmots shot back into a sort of small ravine where they promptly disappeared. Not that it would have mattered about the photos because the best calibre of camera present was an iPhone...
     
  3. lintworm

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    When choosing between the IUCN and a grandfather to see whom to believe how common certain animals are, I would normally always go for IUCN. No disrespect to your grandfather but it sounds very likely as a misidentification.
     
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  4. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

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    I've seen the following wild ones (just from the birds and mammals):

    Rufous Bettong
    Paradise Riflebird
    Banded Plover (this is Banded Lapwing Vanellus tricolor, right?)
    Black Bittern
    Rose-crowned Fruit Dove
    Leaden Flycatcher
    Emerald Dove
    Australian Pratincole
    Fairy Penguin
    Blue-billed Duck
    Platypus
    Comb-crested Jacana

    So, basically, from your list only missing the Australian Bustard, Red Kangaroo, Emu, and Spinifex Pigeon.
     
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  5. amur leopard

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    Yes, now I come to think of it, it probably was a misidentification. However, any idea what it was then? It might just have been a Brown rat with a wet backside? :D
     
  6. ThylacineAlive

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    I agree with @lintworm that your grandparents have likely misidentified the rodents. If not, though, their presence is a huge discovery and I'd encourage you to ask them to try and get photos or any other proof (without disturbing the animals obviously) of their existence so it can be properly reported! :)

    As for the marmot, the IUCN states that they typically live 900-1,400 meters above sea level in the central portions of the island so if your uncle lives on a boat near the coastline then this is likely to be another misidentification. The IUCN does mention that their exact range is currently unknown and that a lot of their potential habitat has gone unsurveyed, though again I don't think they've ever been known to historically inhabit lower coastal habitats. Also, the airline didn't let you take your camera to Vancouver?

    ~Thylo
     
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  7. amur leopard

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    It was a camping trip and it was in the mountains down the centre of the island a bit nearer to the Eastern coast than the Western coast, and I am sure of them.

    I will speak to my grandparents :) - I'm going to Cyprus yet again this summer so I will have another look :)
     
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  8. animal_expert01

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    Where did you see Paradise Riflebird? Has anyone seen any of the other species? I've tagged people who I think might have seen the rest of my list in the wild. @Najade @WhistlingKite24 @Hix @boof @Dannelboyz @MRJ and maybe a few others. Also has anyone seen Radjah Shelduck?
     
  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

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    Lamington National Park.
     
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  10. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands Premium Member

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    Because you asked, I've seen in the wild:

    Australian Bustard
    Banded Lapwing/Plover
    Red Kangaroo
    Emu
    Spinifex Pigeon
    Leaden Flycatcher
    Emerald Dove (both the Pacific and Asian species)
    Australian Pratincole
    Fairy Penguin
    Blue-billed Duck
    Platypus
    Comb-crested Jacana

    And Radjah Shelduck.

    :p

    Hix
     
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  11. carl the birder

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    did you se the amur falcon on cyprus? they are a huge rarity white 6 records or something like that in Europe?
     
  12. amur leopard

    amur leopard Well-Known Member

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    No it was in China.
     
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  13. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

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    When were you in China?
     
  14. amur leopard

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    I was in China during the October half term holidays the year before last. My mother has a very packed schedule and had a meeting in China, so we went out to meet her and see a bit of Guangzhou with her.
     
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    Proboscis monkey = in Borneo in 2005
    bustard = in the Northern Territory and also in my home town
    banded plover = again here in my home town
    black bittern, rose crowned fruit pigeon, emerald dove and jacana = in Darwin
    red kangaroo and emu = common around my town.
    pranticlole = only once out near a small town called coolabah
    blue billed duck and leaden flycatcher = in the Illawarra region
     
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  16. Dannelboyz

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    @animal_expert01 of your captive list I've seen Leopard Seal (wild), Proboscis Monkey (captive and wild), Yellow-bellied Glider (captive and wild) and Southern Corroboree Frog (captive). Of your wild list, I've seen Australian Bustard, Banded Lapwing, Red Kangaroo, Emu, Leaden Flycatcher, Pacific Emerald Dove, Australian Pratincole, Little Penguin, Blue-billed Duck and Platypus. I've also seen Rufous Bettong in captivity, but not wild.

    I'll have to think a bit more about my captive list but in terms of unusual/rare wild animals, this is my best attempt at compiling a list :p

    MAMMALS
    - Platypus
    - Tasmanian Devil
    - Fat-tailed Dunnart
    - Dusky Antechinus
    - Eastern Barred Bandicoot
    - Southern Long-nosed Bandicoot
    - Southern Brown Bandicoot
    - Feathertail Glider sp.
    - Yellow-bellied Glider
    - Southern Greater Glider
    - Mountain Brushtail Possum
    - Cream-coloured Giant Squirrel
    - Least Pygmy Squirrel
    - Sunda Colugo
    - Horsfield's Tarsier
    - Proboscis Monkey
    - Silvery Lutung
    - Island Fox
    - Leopard Seal
    - Bornean Bearded Pig

    BIRDS
    - Australian Bustard
    - Spotted Nightjar
    - White-throated Nightjar
    - Australian Owlet-Nightjar
    - Australian Pratincole
    - Black Noddy
    - Common Noddy
    - Grey Ternlet
    - White Tern
    - Red-tailed Tropicbird
    - Wilson's Storm-Petrel
    - White-faced Storm-Petrel
    - Southern Royal Albatross
    - Wandering Albatross
    - Shy Albatross
    - Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross
    - Grey-faced Petrel
    - Great-winged Petrel
    - Kermadec Petrel
    - Providence Petrel
    - Cape Petrel
    - White-necked Petrel
    - Southern Giant-petrel
    - Southern Fulmar
    - White-chinned Petrel
    - Hutton's Shearwater
    - Red-footed Booby
    - Australasian Bittern
    - Australian Little Bittern
    - Greater Sooty Owl
    - Rhinoceros Hornbill
    - Norfolk Island Parakeet
    - Swift Parrot
    - Orange-bellied Parrot
    - Mallee Emuwren
    - Striated Grasswren
    - Pied Honeyeater
    - Painted Honeyeater
    - Norfolk Island Gerygone
    - Chestnut-crowned Babbler
    - Spotted Quailthrush
    - Chestnut Quailthrush
    - Norfolk Island Robin
    - Pink Robin
    - Slender-billed White-eye
     
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  17. Ituri

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    - Southern Idaho Ground Squirrel
    - Northern Idaho Ground Squirrel
    - Merriam's Ground Squirrel
    - Belding's Ground Squirrel
    - Columbian Ground Squirrel
    - Piute Ground Squirrel
    - Red-tailed Chipmunk
    - Yellow Pine Chipmunk
    - Northern Pocket Gopher
    - Greater Sage Grouse
    - Columbian Sharp-tailed Grouse

    and from Giant Eland's list:
    - Utah Prairie Dog
    - White-tailed Prairie Dog
    - Abert's Squirrel
    - Uinta Chipmunk
    - Uinta Ground Squirrel
    - White-tailed Jackrabbit
     
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  18. Najade

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    Other than the fish (never paid that much attention to them so don't know if I saw 'em or not) I've seen every species on your wild list (incl. the Shelduck). Compared to some other stuff out there none of them are really all that rare though.
     
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  19. ThylacineAlive

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    Umm
    Between us, have we been to every country in the world? 1 Oct 2019

    If you could only visit 5 countries in your lifetime 17 Mar 2019

    And you were in China in October 2018...?

    Also why aren't Switzerland, Vatican City, Belgium, Netherlands, and Cyprus present on both lists?

    ~Thylo
     
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  20. amur leopard

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    China and Vatican city are easily forgettable because they were both really short visits (2 and 1 days respectively), and Cyprus I just had a mind blank. I've obviously been to the last two (I've posted photos in the gallery of them) and I can show you photos of China (although none of them are wildlife related since they were all taken by my parents. I have already talked to 2 people about this, and I know, it's just a result of clumsiness. Switzerland was largely because when I went I thought it was part of Germany so I forgot about it :D. I haven't actually been to the Netherlands or Belgium?