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Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen

Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Hipporex, 18 Dec 2018.

  1. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    The Northern is distributed from Townsville north to Cape York. Anything below that is Southern.

    In the paper describing pallescens as a full species they also suggested that the animals from the middle part of eastern Queensland (e.g. around the Mackay area) may be a separate subspecies of Southern but didn't go further because it would need more study.

    The link below should work for a pdf of the paper (which has maps etc as well as all the technical stuff), but if not you can find it on Google Scholar with the title "Investigating dental variation in Perameles nasuta Geoffroy, 1804, with morphological evidence to raise P. nasuta pallescens Thomas, 1923 to species rank"

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.e...364daaf5ecb0372a109c82de6bc7e6761926d418f722a
     
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  2. Najade

    Najade Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    A couple of birds that might fit the bill:

    Aleutian Tern
    Australian Painted Snipe
    Chestnut-backed Buttonquail
    Plains-wanderer
    Marbled Frogmouth
    Yellow-billed Kingfisher
    Buff-breasted Paradise-kingfisher
    Western Bristlebird
    Rufous Scrub-bird
    Noisy Scrub-bird
    Tropical Scrubwren
    Chestnut-breasted Whiteface
    Banded Whiteface
    Chestnut-rumped Heathwren
    Slaty-backed Thornbill
    Slender-billed Thornbill
    Dusky Gerygone
    Purple-crowned Fairy-wren
    Rufous-crowned Emu-wren
    Black Grasswren
    Pilbara Grasswren
    Sandhill Grasswren
    Thick-billed Grasswren
    Western Grasswren
    Kimberley Honeyeater
    Grey Honeyeater
    Green-backed Honeyeater
    Black-eared Miner
    Yellow Chat
    Copper-backed Quail-thrush
    Western Quail-thrush
    Black-throated (Western) Whipbird
    Chiming Wedgebill
    White-browed Treecreeper
    Black-eared Catbird
    Fawn-breasted Bowerbird
    Black-winged Monarch
    Frill-necked Monarch
    Yellow-legged Flycatcher
    Northern Scrub-robin
    Northern Crested Shrike-tit
    Red-lored Whistler
    Spinifexbird
     
  3. FBBird

    FBBird Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Nice list, except.....(pedantry alert!), a 'couple' is two. These are more than two...... Sorry n all, but people keep doing this, and eventually I cracked. And yes, I know language is a living thing, and changes with time, but you'd get called out in here for calling a chimpanzee a monkey, or a heron a stork.
     
  4. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    "Couple" is often used as a joke, in combination with a large amount of things.
     
  5. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Tossing a few out there, all wild.

    Nazca Booby
    Wrentit?
    Sharp-tailed Snake

    A variety of less common North American birds might count, although Ituri, birdsandbats, and Thylo likely share a good number of them.

    How about Fin Whale and Atlantic White-sided Dolphin? Guessing a handful of Zoochatters but not many?

    A couple captive ones with Dragon Eel, Peach-throated Monitor, and the recently described Ruby Red Dragonet? What about Peacock Mantis Shrimp?
     
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  6. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I've seen fin whale and peacock mantis shrimp.
     
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  7. birdsandbats

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    I've seen Peacock Mantis Shrimp in pet stores (and in a few aquariums).
     
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  8. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I probably don't have as many odd birds as you may think.. especially not from your corner of the country.

    As for the others, I have seen the whale, eel, monitor, and mantis shrimp.

    ~Thylo
     
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  9. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I just remembered I saw the eel once, too, also in a pet store.
     
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  10. birdsandbats

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    I was going through some old pictures and found a picture of what I though at the time I took it was a Meadow Vole. It turned out to be a Southern Red-backed Vole, a lifer for me and a species that surely qualifies for this thread.

    Here's an attempt at a bird list. Most of these aren't that unusual, but the lack of (surprising) American birders on this site certainly inflates my number. Species marked with an * I saw in captivity:

    American Black Duck
    Harlequin Duck
    Surf Scoter
    White-winged Scoter
    Black Scoter
    Ruffed Grouse
    Greater Prairie-Chicken (subspecies pinnatus, which even fewer ZooChatters have seen)
    Horned Grebe
    Red-necked Grebe
    Eared Grebe
    Black-billed Cuckoo
    Common Nighthawk
    Eastern Whip-Poor-Will
    Sora
    Whooping Crane
    American Avocet*
    American Golden-Plover*
    Upland Sandpiper
    Baird's Sandpiper
    Pectoral Sandpiper
    Semipalmated Sandpiper
    American Woodcock
    Wilson's Snipe
    Greater Yellowlegs
    Solitary Sandpiper
    Common Tern
    Forster's Tern
    Red-throated Loon
    American Bittern
    Least Bittern
    White-faced Ibis*
    Northern Harrier
    Sharp-shinned Hawk
    Broad-winged Hawk
    Boreal Owl*
    Red-headed Woodpecker
    Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
    Pileated Woodpecker
    Puerto Rican Parrot*
    Great Crested Flycatcher
    Olive-sided Flycatcher
    Eastern Wood-Pewee
    Willow Flycatcher
    Least Flycatcher
    Northern Shrike
    Yellow-throated Vireo
    Blue-headed Vireo
    Warbling Vireo
    Red-eyed Vireo
    Purple Martin
    Brown Creeper
    Winter Wren
    Sedge Wren
    Marsh Wren
    Blue-Gray Gnatcatcher
    Eastern Bluebird
    Veery
    Swainson's Thrush
    Wood Thrush
    Brown Thrasher
    Purple Finch
    Grasshopper Sparrow
    Clay-colored Sparrow
    Field Sparrow
    Fox Sparrow
    White-crowned Sparrow
    White-throated Sparrow
    American Tree Sparrow
    Henslow's Sparrow
    Savannah Sparrow
    Lincoln's Sparrow
    Swamp Sparrow
    Eastern Towhee
    Yellow-headed Blackbird
    Bobolink
    Eastern Meadowlark
    Western Meadowlark
    Orchard Oriole
    Rusty Blackbird
    Brewer's Blackbird
    Ovenbird
    Northern Waterthrush
    Blue-winged Warbler
    Black-and-white Warbler
    Tennessee Warbler
    Orange-crowned Warbler
    Nashville Warbler
    American Redstart
    Cape May Warbler
    Northern Parula
    Magnolia Warbler
    Bay-breasted Warbler
    Blackburnian Warbler
    Chestnut-sided Warbler
    Blackpoll Warbler
    Black-throated Blue Warbler
    Palm Warbler
    Pine Warbler
    Black-throated Green Warbler
    Wilson's Warbler
    Scarlet Tanager
    Rose-breasted Grosbeak
    Indigo Bunting
    Dickcissel
     
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  11. Mr. Zootycoon

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    Several of these species also occur in Europe. Slavonian (Horned) Grebe, Red-necked Grebe, Black-necked (Eared) Grebe, Common Tern and Red-throated Diver (Loon) are not that hard in western Europe, and I assume that besides me, @Maguari, @KevinVar and @Vision, among others, have seen these species. Many of the waders and several of the warblers are rare vagrants in Europe, some even relatively frequent (e.g. American Golden Plover). Boreal Owl also occurs in Europe, but is very difficult to see in the wild - though they're not that uncommon in zoos. Most (all?) the ducks are kept in captivity in western Europe, though not all in zoos. Same with White-faced Ibis, Indigo Bunting and probably a few other songbirds as well.

    I really have no idea how uncommon the rest is, or how easy they are to see in the US.
     
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  12. TeaLovingDave

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    Seen those on multiple occasions.

    Seen all but the Red-necked Grebe for certain - I may have seen RNG in winter plumage but not sure - and have the Common Tern and Black-necked Grebe breeding only 20 minutes walk from my flat :)
     
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  13. birdsandbats

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    I forgot that those species also occurred in Europe.
     
  14. Great Argus

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    Bolded what I've seen on your list. I'll have to see about making a list later and see what species are shared!
     
  15. ThylacineAlive

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    59/105. So I've seen a little over half. Species seen in bold.

    ~Thylo
     
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  16. vogelcommando

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    2 species not mentioned sofar and from which I think only very few ZooChatters have seen them are the Galapagos dove and the New Caledonian Imperial pigeon. I not only have seen these species ( the former in some private collections and at Weltvogelpark Walsrode ), the latter only at Weltvogelpark Walsrode ) I even took care for them ( ways back in the 1980s ) :) !
     
  17. Great Argus

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    Ok, so here's a list of more uncommon ones on my list. Avoiding ones already listed in the quoted post. How about it @birdsandbats and @ThylacineAlive ?

    Mountain Quail
    Spruce Grouse
    Sooty Grouse
    Pacific Loon
    Clark's Grebe
    Brandt's Cormorant
    Virginia Rail
    Lesser Yellowlegs
    Black Turnstone
    Surfbird
    Short-billed Dowitcher
    Heermann's Gull
    Iceland Gull (Thayer's spp)
    Arctic Tern
    Royal Tern
    Parasitic Jaeger
    Thick-billed Murre
    Rhinoceros Auklet
    Northern Hawk-Owl
    Black Swift
    Vaux's Swift
    White-throated Swift
    Black-chinned Hummingbird
    Calliope Hummingbird
    Allen's Hummingbird
    Lewis's Woodpecker
    Williamson's Sapsucker
    Red-naped Sapsucker
    Nuttall's Woodpecker
    White-headed Woodpecker
    American Three-toed Woodpecker
    Black-backed Woodpecker
    Western Wood-Pewee
    Yellow-bellied Flycatcher
    Alder Flycatcher
    Hammond's Flycatcher
    Gray Flycatcher
    Dusky Flycatcher
    Pacific-slope Flycatcher
    Say's Phoebe
    Ash-throated Flycatcher
    Cassin's Kingbird
    Loggerhead Shrike
    Cassin's Vireo
    Hutton's Vireo
    Gray Jay
    California Scrub-Jay
    Yellow-billed Magpie
    Northwestern Crow
    Violet-green Swallow
    Oak Titmouse
    Chestnut-backed Chickadee
    Boreal Chickadee
    Bushtit
    Pygmy Nuthatch
    Rock Wren
    Canyon Wren
    Pacific Wren
    American Dipper
    Golden-crowned Kinglet
    Mountain Bluebird
    Townsend's Solitaire
    Varied Thrush
    Sage Thrasher
    California Thrasher
    Phainopepla
    Black-throated Gray Warbler
    Townsend's Warbler
    Mourning Warbler
    Macgillivray's Warbler
    Yellow-breasted Chat
    Green-tailed Towhee
    California Towhee
    Rufous-crowned Sparrow
    Brewer's Sparrow
    Lark Sparrow
    Vesper Sparrow
    Golden-crowned Sparrow
    Harris's Sparrow
    Summer Tanager
    Black-headed Grosbeak
    Blue Grosbeak
    Lazuli Bunting
    Tricolored Blackbird
    Great-tailed Grackle
    Hooded Oriole
    Cassin's Finch
    Pine Grosbeak
    Lesser Goldfinch
    Lawrence's Goldfinch
    Evening Grosbeak

    (I know it's listed in an older taxonomy, I need to update my species track document to reflect the current one...)
     
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  18. TeaLovingDave

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    Believe it or not, this was actually my first species of diver/loon :p

    Seen these several times.

    Seen a lot of these - even had my head thoroughly pecked by them :p and I know for a fact Thylo has seen this species too.
     
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  19. Zoofan15

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    This isn't an easy list to make as if you're looking for people who have seen these species, this is the site to find them. :p

    Captivity:

    Chacma baboon
    Great spotted kiwi
    Temminck's golden cat (many would have seen this; but few going into the future)
    Subantarctic fur seal
    Blue-ringed octopus
    Numbat
    Ghost bat
    King penguin

    Wild:

    Sperm whale
    Humpback whale
    New Zealand fur seal
    New Zealand sea lion
    Common bottlenose dolphin
    Indo-Pacific bottlenose dolphin
    Dusky dolphin
    Common dolphin
    Hector's dolphin
    Platypus
    Southern cassowary
    Yellow-eyed penguin
    Little blue penguin
    Northern royal albatross
    Takahe
     
  20. ThylacineAlive

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    So only 23 here!

    Five here!

    ~Thylo
     
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