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Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen

Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Hipporex, 18 Dec 2018.

  1. GiratinaIsGod

    GiratinaIsGod Well-Known Member

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    I only saw a few rare ones like spix's marcaw (Loro Parque) aswell as so many other species, I coudn't name in here
    Baikal seal (Leipzig)
    Chinese Pangolin (Leipzig)
    Abyssinian golden wolf (Rheine)
    Amazon Riverdolphin (Duisburg)
    Blue-Eyed black Lemur (Appenheul)
    San- Francisco Gartersnake (Münster)
     
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  2. FunkyGibbon

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    I think this could be summed up in part as the 'Baby Phenomenon'. Despite being the only one, basically any zoochatter in Europe with the means to do so has seen a river dolphin. Similarly although Berlin and Plzen hold countless rarities, most of those rarities have been seen by large numbers of zoochatters. Even the spotted linsang at Chengdu was seen by almost all Chinese zoochatters. What we are probably looking for are either rarities seen at small zoos nobody really visits, or stuff seen in the wild.
     
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  3. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Indeed - if I had the time and spoons I'd be rather tempted to run through this whole thread to see how many species have been claimed by a single person, and moreover how many of these are species that we don't already know multiple Zoochatters have seen even if they haven't mentioned having done so within this thread.
     
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    I'm sorry.... I'm confused.....What does this say?? Spoons?? It's late....
     
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    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    No worries - it's a relatively new turn of phrase pertaining to the way people with physical or mental disabilities (in my case, Aspergers and low-level anxiety) deal with everyday life:

    Spoon theory - Wikipedia

    In other words, as it's late and I'm tired, I don't have the mental or physical energy to write up the list I proposed :p
     
  6. Great Argus

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    Would be interesting to say the least. Given there's 6 groups (Mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish, invertebrates - probably could just say herps here though), I wouldn't mind taking half if you wanted to do the other half. Would give us a rough idea of some of the rarest and least seen species among Zoochatters!
     
  7. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    So, given that you completed that thread with no mention of seeing a Pig-tailed Langur, I have some feelings of confusion...
     
  8. FunkyGibbon

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    Who said I completed the thread? :p
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Well I know that it took you an entire year to write it, but the leaving of the island at the end of the thread suggested it had been completed.
     
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    There's a tame one on one of the Islands, maybe he saw that one?
     
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    Let's just say things aren't quite over yet.
     
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  12. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    So I bolded ones I've seen in the wild, and made red the ones I've never seen.

    Seems like you have at least 8 mammals on me! I have some work ahead of me haha.
     
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    The vole was seen wild by coincidence. The beach mouse was seen at Noah's Ark in Europe of all places, who received one from a private collection. The kangaroo-rat was at CALM. The gerbil was at Bronx, yes, but long gone now.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Ah I actually tried seeing that same mouse at Noah's Ark, but I arrived on the one day of the week they're closed (and no sneaking in this time lol!) I even spoke to an employee I saw there to try to convince that an exception be made- but no luck!

    What year did you see the kangaroo-rat at CALM? Did you have similar troubles seeing the gerbil at Bronx- ever get a photo?
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I visited CALM in January 2018. I don't remember the gerbil well, this was when I first started zoo-going so no photos.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Noahs used to have a group of them, never did manage a decent picture, the little buggers moved like lightning
     
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    I’ve seen...

    Shoebills at San Diego zoo Safari Park
    Tuataras at Dallas zoo
    Hawaiian monk seals at both Minnesota zoo & wakiki aquarium
    Kangaroo rats at Henry doorly zoo
    Darien pika at Minnesota zoo
    Transcaspian urial at both Minnesota zoo & saint Louis zoo
    Goitered gazelle at Minnesota zoo
    Kodiak bears at Lake Superior zoo
    Bush dogs at Detroit zoo
    Dholes at Minnesota zoo
    Kagus at San Diego zoo
    California condors at San Diego zoo
    Rock wallaby’s at Henry doorly zoo
     
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  18. Great Argus

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    Pretty sure a lot of people have seen all of those... most of them are easily seen.
     
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  19. TeaLovingDave

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    Think the pika and monk seal are the likeliest bets for low "Zoochatters seen" counts!
     
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    I'm probably a poor judge of what's a true rarity by zoochat standards, as I've never had the financial ability/time for traveling that a lot of zoochatters seems to have had. I think there's a bit of a gulf between serious enthusiasts and the more average folks, in terms of what's considered particularly difficult to see, aka "rare". Not that I begrudge anyone that, as y'all have a habit of taking great pictures for me to check out :D

    With that said, I can come up with a short list of species that I've seen people mention in various threads. Or species that are, as far as I know, not super accessible.

    Black-footed Cat - Fresno Zoo
    Bush Dogs - Sequoia Park Zoo
    Great White Shark - Monterey Bay Aquarium
    Mountain Tapir - LA Zoo
    Speke's Gazelle- Fresno Zoo
    Walrus - Marine World (now Six Flags Discovery Kingdom)
    Yellow-billed Magpie - LA Zoo (these were also common backyard birds for me growing up in Merced County, CA)

    If we're talking wild animals:

    Falcated Duck - (a wild vagrant from Russia/Mongolia, in Colusa Wildlife Refuge)
    2, maybe 3 subspecies of Ensatina salamander here in California and Oregon
    Fisher - rural Humboldt County
    Giant Kangaroo Rat- Carrizo Plain National Monument
    Kit Fox - Carrizo Plain National Monument
    Phainopepla - Tulare County

    Likely several other bird species I've seen would be considered rarities too, but I'm not up to trawling through my old eBird records right now.
     
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