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Banded Palm Civets in Zoos World-Wide

Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Nikola Chavkosk, 28 Jul 2017.

  1. Nikola Chavkosk

    Nikola Chavkosk Well-Known Member

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    According to the Zootieriste, in Europe there is currently just one holder of the banded palm civet , that is in Germany - Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae.
    -How many of these animals, RSCC held/.
    -I am interested about the status of this species in North America and Asian countries.
    -Whether it is still present in North American zoos - Cincinaty zoo - the only holder in N. America/.
    -I suppose this species is present in zoos in Indonesia, but what about Japan, China or Russia/.
    -Whether this species was ever kept in Australia/.

    -And have you ever seen this species in person/.

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    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Where was that taken?
     
  3. Nikola Chavkosk

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    Unfortunately, I cannot tell. Nothing personal.
     
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    Cincinnati is not the only current holder of this species in America, though they are the only zoo exhibiting it. They have one individual while Nashville received all(?) of the RSCC stock, and has since bred the species. I believe Nashville currently holds 4.4.
     
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    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    I'm pretty sure this photograph does *not* depict Banded Civet, but the closely related Owston's Civet; note the freckling on the front legs and shoulders, a feature which the former taxon lacks.
     
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    Not all; the individuals held at Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae also originate from RSCC, and a small number of the RSCC animals remain in private hands in Europe last I heard.
     
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    Nashville received some stock from the RSCC but they already held the species as the two zoos were working together before RSCC closed.

    Some of the civets stayed in the UK and went to a private collection not far from me. There's a thread in the private collection forum.

    Sumatran Banded Palm Civets(Hemigalus derbyanus)
     
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  8. Nikola Chavkosk

    Nikola Chavkosk Well-Known Member

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    You are wrong TLD, these are not Owston's palm civets.
     
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    As TLD is an expert on small carnivores I would be inclined to believe him, but I will leave it at that.
     
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    Given the fact that Owston's palm civets have spots and Banded palm civets do not, it might be good if you could explain why TLD is wrong according...
     
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    Kind of you, but I would never call myself an expert!
     
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    Well it's also a matter of common sense as well as your high level of knowledge. One has spots, the other doesn't!
     
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    I think some south-eastern Asia countries include Malaysia or Indonesia may have them, but I only know taiping have them before(in chlidonias review)
     
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    Those are not spots, actually are discontinuos stripes. The animals are simply banded palm civets as are recorded and their origin is known. Plus, the banded palm civets may also have some spots on the anterior parts and are less hairy than Owston's palm civet, especially on the tail - judging from the pictures for Owston's because I had never saw this species in person, but the banded palm civet yes, .
     
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    Boy, I do love myself some of those South American tigers! You know, the ones with the discontinuous stripes? ;)

    Jokes aside, Batu Secret Zoo (in Indonesia) keeps a pair of (spotless) Hemigalus derbyanus - at least they did in July of last year.
     
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    Plus, the Owston's palm civet has a larger ear - auricles and a sharper ending muzzle than the banded palm civet.
     
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    The first feature you cite is common but not diagnostic, whilst the second literally varies from animal to animal. For that matter, the hairiness you cite is also non-diagnostic.

    The only truly diagnostic features between the two are classically said to be a) spots and blotches on the forelimbs and shoulders in Owstons with these absent in Banded and b) direction of hair on the neck reversing in each.
     
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