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Butterflyfishes of the genus Chaetodon

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  1. vogelcommando

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    Very nice species ! Thanks a lot for your contribution Hix !
     
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    Part 6 :

    51 ) Chaetodon nigropunctatus - Black-spotted butterflyfish, no information found that it has been kept in captivity and also no photos in the Gallery.

    52 ) Chaetodon nippon - Japanese butterflyfish. Also from this species I couldn't find any information about captive-keeping but with the large number of Aquariums in Japan I guess it has been kept there. There are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    53 ) Chaetodon ocellatus - Spotfin butterflyfish, aka the Yellowmargin butterflyfish is at the moment in Europe only kept at Paris CineAqua Trocadero but I've seen it myself at X-caret in Mexico and also the Maritime Aquarium in the USA has kept it. There are a few photos in the Gallery and this one was taken at Paris :
    http://www.zoochat.com/428/yellowma...cellatus-32310/?highlight=chaetodon+ocellatus

    54 ) Chaetodon ocellicaudatus - Spot-tail butterflyfish. No information about keeping this species and also no photos in the Gallery.

    55 ) Chaetodon octofasciatus - Eigthband butterflyfish. Kept in Europe in 6 collections and devilfish saw the species on his trip to Japan at the Sunshine Aquarium where he took the only picture which is at the Gallery :
    http://www.zoochat.com/740/eight-st...quarium-tokyo-436362/?highlight=butterflyfish

    56 ) Chaetodon ornatissimus - Ornate butterflyfish. No information about being kept at aquariums and the few photos which are in the Gallery were taken in the wild, like this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1393/ornate-...-ornatissimus-280182/?highlight=butterflyfish

    57 ) Chaetodon oxycephalus - Spot-nape butterflyfish, no information about being kept in captivity and no photos in the Gallery.

    58 ) Chaetodon paucifasciatus - Eritrean butterflyfish. At the moment kept only at 1 European collection the Oceangraphic Museum in Monaco. There are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    59 ) Chaetodon pelewensis - Sunset butterflyfish. Should have been kept around 2008 at Brest - France. There are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    60 ) Chaetodon pictus - Horseshoe butterflyfish. No captive information and no pictures of it at the Gallery.

    To be continued...
     
  3. Hix

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    I thought the Dot-and Dash buttterflyfish was an other name for the Spotband butterflyfish ( Chaetodon punctatofasciatus ) - which will be number 62 on my list but then I googled Dot and Dash bff and it seem that the name is used for both Sunset and Spotband bff !
    The fish on your photo is clearly Chaetodon pelewensis.
    Thank you very much for the correction Hix !
     
  5. Hix

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    Common names can be very confusing.

    :p

    Hix
     
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    Part 7 :

    61 ) Chaetodon plebeius - Blueblotch butterflyfish, not found any information about this species being kept in captivity and also no photos of it in the Gallery.

    62 ) Chaetodon punctatofasciatus - Spotband butterflyfish ( like the Sunset butterflyfish also this species is also known under the name Dot and dash butterflyfish ). This species has formerly kept at 2 collections -untill 2014 at Budapest and untill 2013 at Basel. There seem to be no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    63 ) Chaetodon quadrimaculatus - Fourspot butterflyfish. At the moment kept only in one European collection - Haus des Meeres - Vienna and the few photos at the Gallery of this species are all from the wild, like this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1393/fourspo...atus-280907/?highlight=fourspot+butterflyfish

    64 ) Chaetodon rafflesii - Latticed butterflyfish, one of the commoner kept species with 7 collection ( in Europe ) keeping it. It is ( has bee ) kept also at the Sea World Gold Coast Aquarium in Australia and at an unknown collection in Spain where Kakapo made one of the only 3 photos in the Gallery :
    http://www.zoochat.com/715/latticed...esii-346881/?highlight=latticed+butterflyfish

    65 ) Chaetodon rainfordi - Rainford's butterfly fish. In Europe I only found out that it was kept at Zoo Berlin in 1987 but devilfish saw it at the beginning of this year at the Tokyo Sea Life Park where he made the only photo of this species found in the Gallery :
    http://www.zoochat.com/740/rainford-s-butterflyfish-tokyo-sea-life-440225/?highlight=butterflyfish

    66 ) Chaetodon reticulatus - Mailed butterflyfish ( aka Reticulated butterflyfish ), no information about this species being kept in captivity and the 2 photos of this species at the Gallery where both made in the wild. This is one of them :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1393/reticul...s-280893/?highlight=reticulated+butterflyfish

    67 ) Chaetodon robustus - Three-banded butterflyfish, no information about being kept in captivity and no photos at the Gallery of this species.

    68 ) Chaetodon sanctaehelenae - Saint Helena butterflyfish. Couldn't find any information about the captive-keeping of this species and there are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    69 ) Chaetodon sedentarius - Reef butterflyfish. At the moment kept in 2 European collections ( Rotterdam and Basel ) and has also been kept at the New York Aquarium. Also seen it in the pet-trade where some of the few photos in the Gallery were made like this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/705/reef-but...entarius-454937/?highlight=reef+butterflyfish

    70 ) Chaetodon selene - Yellow dotted butterflyfish. Another species for which I could'nt find any information about captive-keeping and also without photos at the Gallery.

    To be continued...
     
  7. Hix

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    I saw Rainfords at SeaWorld in Australia a few years ago.

    And here's punctofasciatus from Christmas Island.
     

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    Thanks for this info Hix and also for the beautifull picture of Chaetodon punctofasciatus !
     
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    Part 8 :

    71 ) Chaetodon semeion - Dotted butterflyfish, a species for which I didn't find any captive-information but in the Gallery there are 2 pictures of this species, taken in the wild from which this in one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1821/dotted-...emeion-287914/?highlight=dotted+butterflyfish

    72 ) Chaetodon semilarvatus - Bluecheek butterflyfish, one of the more commonly kept species which can be found at 19 European collections and devilfish saw and photographed it this year at the Alexandria Aquarium. There are however only relative few photos of this beautifull species in the Gallery like for example this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/128/bluecheek-butterflyfish-454793/?highlight=bluecheek+butterflyfish

    73 ) Chaetodon smithi - Smith's butterflyfish, only found one picture of this pecies in the Gallery which was made by Hix at the Waikiki Aquarium :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1153/smiths-...smithi-266661/?highlight=smiths+butterflyfish

    74 ) Chaetodon speculum - Mirror butterflyfish. Kept at only one collection in Europe - at Stralsund - Germany - and there are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    75 ) Chaetodon striatus - Banded butterflyfish. Also kept at only one collection - Rotterdam in the Netherlands - and also from this species there are still no photos in the Gallery.

    76 ) Chaetodon tinkeri - Hawaiian butterflyfish, didn't find any notes of this species being kept in public collections but I've seen it in the ( dutch ) pet-trade where the only 2 photos of this species were made. This is one of them :
    http://www.zoochat.com/705/chaetodon-tinkeri-436167/?highlight=chaetodon+tinkeri

    77 ) Chaetodon triangulum - Triangle butterflyfish, kept in 1987 at the Berlin Zoo but there are no photos of this species in the Gallery.

    78 ) Chaetodon trichrous - Tahiti butterflyfish. Didn't find any information about this species being kept in captivity and there are also no photos of it at the Gallery.

    79 ) Chaetodon tricinctus - Three-striped butterflyfish. Another species not being kept in public collections and without any photos in the Gallery.

    80 ) Chaetodon trifascialis - Chevron butterflyfish. No information about being kept in public collection but seen in the pet-trade an from there are the only 2 photos in the Gallery from which this is one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/705/chevron-...alis-454933/?highlight=chaetodon+trifascialis

    To be continued...
     
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    Last part and recapitulation :

    81 ) Chaetodon trifasciatus - Melon butterflyfish, kept at only one collection in Europe - Meereszentrum Burg on Fehmarn in Germany but I didn't found it last month when I visited this collection. It also has been kept in Spain at an unknown collection where Kakapo made the only photo of this species at the Gallery :
    http://www.zoochat.com/715/melon-bu...sciatus-346883/?highlight=melon+butterflyfish

    82 ) Chaetodon ulietensis - Pacific double-saddled butterflyfish. At the moment kept at 4 European collections and has also been kept at the Waikiki Aquarium. There are a few photos of this species in the Gallery ( both from the wild and from captivity ) like this one made by Hix at the Waikiki Aquarium :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1153/doubleb...tensis-266616/?highlight=chaetodon+ulietensis

    83 ) Chaetodon unimaculatus - Teardrop butterflyfish. In Europe at the moment only kept at Stralsund - Germany and the few photos at the Gallery are all made in the wild like this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1393/teardro...atus-281470/?highlight=chaetodon+unimaculatus

    84 ) Chaetodon vagabundus - Vagabond butterflyfish. Kept at a small number ( 5 ) of European collections and some photos of the species ( both from captivity and the wild )at the Gallery like this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/1821/vagabon...bundus-287888/?highlight=chaetodon+vagabundus

    85 ) Chaetodon wiebeli - Hongkong butterflyfish. Didn't find any information about this species being kept at public collections and there are also not photos of it at the Gallery.

    86 ) Chaetodon xanthocephalus - Yellowhead butterflyfish. This species is being kept at 5 European collection but there is only one picture of it at the Gallery :
    http://www.zoochat.com/2010/poisson...ad-411951/?highlight=chaetodon+xanthocephalus

    87 ) Chaetodon xanthurus - Pearlscale butterflyfish, kept at 8 collections in Europe and I've seen it also at the ( dutch ) pet-trade where the only few pictures of this species in the Gallery were made for example this one :
    http://www.zoochat.com/705/chaetodon-xanthurus-444212/?highlight=chaetodon+xanthurus

    88 ) Chaetodon zanzibarensis - Zanzibar butterflyfish. Kept around 2008 at Antwerp Zoo but there are no photos of the species in the Gallery.

    Recapitulation :
    What is the goal of this thread ? These beautifull fishes have sofar gotten little attention on ZooChat. From less then half the species pictures are in the Gallery and further there are hardly any notes and mentions of these animals in any thread.
    I hope that :
    - more ZooChatters will have a closer look at the marine/coral fishes and try to find out which species they are looking at.
    - You try to find out how common or how rare the species seen is/are in zoos.
    - Try to make some decent photos of the animals you see.
    -Report your sightings of Butterflyfishes at this thread so we can get a more complete overview of which species are kept and where they are kept. I'm sure that esp. in the USA and in Australia a lot of species are kept unnoticed by ZooChatters.
    The above is not only true for the Genus Chaetodon but in fact for most marine / coralfishes and with a little more attention I think a lot more rare and unussual observations can be made !
     
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    I'll try to remember to help out with USA aquariums when I go to them.

    The National Aquarium in Baltimore keeps:
    - raccoon butterflyfish (Chaetodon lunula)
    - foureye butterflyfish (Chaetodon capistratus)
    - spotfin butterflyfish (Chaetodon ocellatus)
    - saddle butterflyfish (Chaetodon ephippium)
    - threadfin butterflyfish (Chaetodon auriga)
    - redtail butterflyfish (Chaetodon collare)

    Hope I helped. If you want me to upload a photo of a certain species, I will do my best to get one, but several of the tanks are too dark for a good photo :(.
     
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    Thank you very much for this information jayjds2 ! This is exactly what I wanted to reach with this thread, an overview of which species are kept at which collections !
    Raccoon, saddle and threadfin are all quite well represented in the Gallery but from Foureye, spotfin and redtail butterflyfish only very few photos are in the Gallery so if you have the possibility, please try to make some of them - also pictures of the aquariums they are kept in are in many cases intresting.
     
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    I'll do my best on my next visit. Sadly, only the saddle butterflyfish is in a well lit aquarium, but that won't stop me from trying for photos of the others!
     
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    Thank you and I wish you all the luck you need :) !
     
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    Went on monday to the coralandfishstore and found no less then 7 different Butterfly species of the genus Chaetodon !
    2 of these species I had never seen before being sold and I also don't remember having seen those at any public collection. I have however to admit that untill recently I didn't pay to much attention to fish in general in my earlier years of zoo-visiting so I may have seen some of them unnoticed.
    The species I saw on Monday are :
    Chaetodon auriga
    Chaetodon citrinellus - prop. a first-timer
    Chaetodon collare
    Chaetodon lunula
    Chaetodon rafflesii
    Chaetodon vagabundus
    Chaetodon xanthurus
    Have up-loaded several photos of most of these species in the Netherlands - Other Gallery.
     
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    Last saturday I visited Burgers Zoo in Arnhem - the Netherlands and because they have an enormous Aquarium ( Burger's Ocean ) I had hoped ( and expected ) to find several Butterflyfishes but only 2 - the most commonly kept - were on display in several of the tanks, these being the Threadfin butterflyfish and the Raccoon butterflyfish. From both species I've uploaded a photo in the Burger's Zoo Gallery ( http://www.zoochat.com/162/threadfin-butterflyfish-ray-surgeonfish-460604/ and http://www.zoochat.com/162/raccoon-butterflyfishes-460605/ ).
     
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    Yesterday at Rotterdam Zoo I started to search directly for the Banded butterflyfish ( Chaetodon striatus ) because Rotterdam is the only European collection with this species in its collection and there are still no photos of this species in the Gallery.
    I didn't found any because many of the tropical seawater aquariums were being re-newed and empty or already filled with water and housed with some commoner species.. :( ( hopefully next time ! ).
    I did however see 2 other species of the genus Cheatodon:
    Chaetodon kleini
    Chaetodon ID ( see picture here : http://www.zoochat.com/36/butterflyfish-id-465617/ )
     
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    The second unknown species has been identified by devilfish and isn't a Chaetodon ( :( ), so I only saw one species at Rotterdam Zoo.
     
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    Fantastic thread, vogelcommando! Certainly this is maybe my favourite genus of fishes as they're so beautiful, diverse and fully coloured and there are so many species. I wish to have photographed all the species that count with photos at the gallery! However I got a small collection of photos with the species that I've seen in my life, that are:

    Chaetodon auriga at Aquarium du La Rochelle (France) (2009) and Acuario de Zaragoza (Spain) (2009) (the latter disappeared already in my second visit (2012) as their formerly marine tank was transformed into a freshwater tank).

    Chaetodon baronessa for sale at a pet shop (2010)

    Chaetodon ephippium for sale at a pet shop (2012)

    Chaetofon falcula at L'Aquarium Barcelona (Spain) (2013)

    Chaetodon humeralis at Birch Aquarium (USA) (2016)

    Chaetodon kleinii at Berlin Zoo-Aquarium (Germany) (2011)

    Chaetodon lunula, for sale at a pet shop (2012) and at SeaWorld San Diego (USA) (2016)

    Chaetodon madagaskariensis at Berlin Zoo-Aquarium (Germany) (2011)

    Chaetodon multicinctus at SeaWorld San Diego (USA) (2016)

    Chaetodon rafflesii for sale at an aquarium shop (2012)

    Chaetodon rainfordi at SeaWorld San Diego (USA) (2016)

    Chaetodon semilarvatus at L'Aquarium Barcelona (Spain) (2013)

    Chaetodon trifasciatus for sale at a pet shop (2010)

    Chaetodon vagabundus at Berlin Zoo-Aquarium (Germany) (2011)

    Chaetodon xanthurus at Aquarium du La Rochelle (France) (2009)

    The species seen at SeaWorld San Diego this year are all in the tank "Journey to Atlantis", that formerly hold the so much wished Commerson's dolphins that I arrived late to see. It's curious to see the butterflyfishes in this tank: one pass much time exploring each corner, making sure that you saw every species kept inside... and the you go around to see more exhibits, coming back in a while, and you see other new species of butterflyfish not seen before... and you do it again and see even a third species!!! This tank housed also a fish that I photographed as a "invited guess", very small in the corner of the frame of a photo of Aetobatus narinari. Unfortunately it has not enough quality for save the photo... I searched it in the genus Chaetodon and don't found it... and that is because it was not a Chaetodon but a close parent, Johnrandallia nigrirostris! Well, I suppose that I will have more opportunities in life to photograph this species again.
     
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    Fantastic reply Kakapo ! Hope you are willing to up-load photos of all these species in the Gallery, would be great !
    That "Journey to Atlantis" is - at least for me - a must-see I guess, sounds really very interesting !