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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Meaghan Edwards, 5 Mar 2009.

  1. Neva

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    I would like to see more dhole packs. I found this species incredibly interesting; also captive breeding seems to be improved.
    It would be nice to see short-eared dog, Sechura fox and Ethiopian wolf.
    (For Darwin's fox ex-situ programme could be too late now?)
    And in general more species of foxes.

    My species list includes:
    1. Grey wolf (captive + wild)
    + Dingo
    2. African wild dog
    3. Dhole
    4. Maned wolf
    5. Golden jackal
    6. Black-backed jackal
    7. Bush dog
    8. Red fox (captive + wild)
    9. Fennec fox
    10. Arctic fox
    11. Bat-eared fox
    12. Corsac fox
    13. Raccon dog (captive + wild)

    I really regret not seeing Cape fox in Plzen yet - the house was closed during my visit :(.

    PS Tabernas (Oasys Mini Hollywood) in Spain looks like european power of rarely-keep foxes. Somebody was there and can say something more about?
     
  2. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    If it's any consolation it was a no-show for me on both days of my visit despite several attempts :p
     
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  3. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Can confirm a pale fox (Vulpes pallida) is currently held at Animal Adventures Family Zoo & Rescue Center in Massachusetts, USA
     
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  4. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Ooo! I'm trying to do a new england trip this year, I don't think that was originally on my list but it'll be added now :)

    According to the bronx thread, dholes will be going into the old polar bear habitat.
     
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  5. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Any idea when you plan to take your New England trip? And cool news about the Dholes!
     
  6. TinoPup

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    Sometime this summer, depending on my dog's health (it's been a rough week). My Dad wants to do it the week of July 4th, which I'm totally against for obvious reasons. I need to check in with him again on it.
     
  7. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Ah you will beat me then! I plan on going end of August.
     
  8. Neva

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    Well... A little bit :p Sometimes I think it's hard to be passionate about small carnivores...
    But maybe it will change soon for me, I won't give up only because a bad streak. Cape fox and palawan leopard cats are waiting...
     
  9. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Updated list: Added 2 species overall and 4 in the wild!

    1.) (Vulpes cana) Blanford’s fox

    2.) (Vulpes chama) Cape fox

    3.) (Vulpes corsac) corsac fox

    4.) (Vulpes lagopus) arctic fox

    5.) (Vulpes macrotis) kit fox (also wild)

    6.) (Vulpes pallida) pale fox

    7.) (Vulpes rueppellii) Rueppell’s fox

    8.) (Vulpes velox) swift fox

    9.) (Vulpes vulpes) red fox (also wild)

    10.) (Vulpes zerda) fennec fox

    11.) (Urocyon cinereoargenteus) gray fox (also wild)

    12.) (Urocyon littoralis) island fox

    13.) (Cerdocyon thous) Crab-eating Fox

    14.) (Lycalopex culpaeus) Colpeo Fox

    15.) (Lycalopex griseus) Argentine grey fox

    16.) (Lycalopex gymnocercus) pampas fox

    17.) (Lycalopex sechurae) Sechura Fox

    18.) (Lycalopex vetulus) hoary fox

    19.) (Canis anthus) African wolf (also wild)

    20.) (Canis aureus) golden jackal

    21.) (Canis latrans) coyote (also wild)

    22.) (Canis lupus) gray wolf- including Dingo & Domestic Dog

    23.) (Canis mesomelas) black-backed jackal (also wild)

    24.) Canis simensis) Ethiopian wolf (wild only)

    25.) (Canis rufus) red wolf

    26.) (Chrysocyon brachyurus) maned wolf

    27.) (Cuon alpinus) dhole

    28.) (Lycaon pictus) African wild dog

    29.) (Nyctereutes procyonoides) raccoon dog

    30.) (Otocyon megalotis) bat-eared fox (also wild)

    31.) (Speothos venaticus) bush dog

    Missed out on seeing side-striped jackals in Zambia/Ethiopia and as well as my first wild painted dogs in Zambia.
     
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  10. Hipporex

    Hipporex Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    My canid list: 09 species
    1. African painted dog (L. pictus)
    2. Arctic fox (V. lagopus)
    3. Bush dog (S. venaticus)
    4. Coyote (C. latrans) (captivity + wild)
    5. Fennec fox (V. zerda)
    6. Grey wolf (C. lupus) - Domestic dog (C. l. familiaris) and Mexican wolf (C. l. baileyi)
    7. Island fox (U. littoralis)
    8. Maned wolf (C. brachyurus)
    9. Red fox (V. vulpes)
    Question: What subspecies of African painted dog are kept at American zoos (specifically Oregon and LA)?
     
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  11. Davdhole

    Davdhole Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I wouldn't be too upset with less grey foxes and coyotes in zoos. I'd love to see more bush dogs, tanuki, dingoes, African wild dogs, and dholes for sure. I wish Ethiopian wolves were in zoos (at least in the US, I don't know if there are captive populations elsewhere).
     
  12. TinoPup

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    I would love to see MORE of both of those (along with those you mentioned).
     
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  13. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    There are no Tanuki in US zoos, all of the Raccoon Dogs over here are of the mainland variety.

    ~Thylo
     
  14. vogelcommando

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    I'm not realy a "dog-person" but evenso ( because everybody is making lists ) I also dived into my notes and made a list. To be honest it was much longer then I had expected ( 19 species ! ) :) :
    - Wolf
    - African wild dog
    - Dhole
    - Maned wolf
    - Golden jackal
    - Bush dog
    - Red fox ( only species seen both in captivity and the wild )
    - Fennek
    - Arctic fox
    - Bat-eared fox
    - Corsac fox
    - Raccoon dog
    - Swift fox
    - Black-backed jackal
    - Cape fox
    - Crab-eating fox
    - Egyptian wolf
    - Rüppell's fox
    - Side-striped jackal
    and Dingo and New Guinean singing dog but they don't count as far as I understood.
     
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  15. Davdhole

    Davdhole Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Zoo Atlanta has two tanuki, Thor and Loki.
     
  16. Goura

    Goura Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Indeed - I've never seen either of them
     
  17. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    They are just using the name "tanuki" as an alternative name for "Raccoon Dog" - but they are not Japanese Raccoon Dogs.
     
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  18. Davdhole

    Davdhole Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    They're cool, it's just that for me, coyotes and grey foxes are the canids I've seen more in zoos than many others. I wish I could see wolves as often as I've seen coyotes.
     
  19. Davdhole

    Davdhole Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Really? I've volunteered there for 3 years, and out of everything I found out, this is one thing that I never knew. I do know, however, they came from Italy. This was information from a carnivore keeper in a series they used to do on their YouTube channel called AskZooATL. She also went on to say they're the only zoo to house tanuki, although I think OKC Zoo had or still has raccoon dogs, which I guess aren't tanuki either.
     
  20. TinoPup

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    I've only seen coyotes twice (one each time), grey foxes 2 or 3 times. The number of red foxes I've seen, though... and wolves...
     
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