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  1. LowlandGorilla4

    LowlandGorilla4 Well-Known Member

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    Before we continue I am in no way a crytozoologist or zoologist in general. To talk scientificaly I am using background info and logic. This forum is dedicated to discusing weekly (if I can) a creature that falls into cryptozoology. There are only so many creatures, so feel free to leave recommendations or theories or heck, experiences. If I can I'll post sketches I make of the creature we're discussing. If you're interested leave a like or reply so I see how many people are interested so I can get started.
     
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    LowlandGorilla4 Well-Known Member

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    Because I like big cats I decided our first creature would be the.... DUN DUN DUN!!!!

    Name: The Marozi
    Location: Kenya's Aberdares Mountain
    Description: Spotted African lion. males lack manes
    Potential Explanations: Genetic Mutation, Lion/Hyena Hybrid* or new sub-species or adaptation
    **Extremely unlikely, to genetically different
    Evidence: 2 skins have been obtained, they are pictured below.
    Marozi
     
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    Could be a leopard with a weird pattern.
     
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    Or perhaps a couple of juvenile lions who have retained their infant spots a bit longer than normal?
     
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    Right, they said they were smaller than most lions so that could be a possibility.
     
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    Looking at the pictures they don't have as many spots as a leopard or hyena. I think @amur leopard is right about the juveniles. Their might be a chance that this is Leopan or liopard. However it lacks nearly as many spots as this Leopan.[​IMG]
     
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    I'm interested about these cryptids:
    New Guinea's Devilpig (I think it's an Entelodont)
    Cehehe (I think it's a Musk deer)
    Nandi bear
    Andean wolf
    I think these cryptids can exist. What do you think about them?
     
  8. amur leopard

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    This one I suspect is just an oversized Culpeo.
     
  9. LowlandGorilla4

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    I think you're right about that one, compare the skulls of this puma to the one of a musk deer and it appears to make sense that some one could mistake it.
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    Upon further reflection I don't think its a musk deer according to a witness its only 40 cm tall. I think its a larger chevrotain.
     
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    Musk deer are native to Eastern Russia and surrounding areas, not Java. I think @HungarianBison meant muntjacs, which are quite similar and correspond to the size.
     
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    No, I thought to Musk deer. Otherwise musk deer lives in the Himalayas and southern China, which are closer to Java.
     
  13. LowlandGorilla4

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    I wonder if the Nandi bear is an over sized hyena or a surviving atlas bear.
     
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    The Himalayas and Southern China are still not at all close to Java; not sure how Musk Deer could possibly be in Java anyway as it’s an island.
     
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    Heuvelmanns said it could possibly be a large ratel or even a chalicothere.
     
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    I think its two big to be a ratel (honey Badger) but it could be chalicothere
     
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    @HungarianBison I have to agree I don't think it could be a musk deer, maybe a small Chital deer
     
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    I like the idea of a living chalicothere; there is/was a reconstruction of one at Basle's Natural History Museum. The ratel is probably more likely; after all some people think a 'pussy cat' is a lion - that happened a few years ago in Essex.
     
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    Realistic yes but unlikely, I personally think its a large species of hyena[​IMG]
     
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    Ratels are too small and have a different coloration