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do the staff really know what they are doing

Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by nomore, 9 Feb 2019.

  1. nomore

    nomore New Member

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    yet another animal death at this zoo ,.. this time by a tiger killing his potential mate i remember the "expert" staff getting it wrong before with the introduction of a komodo dragon who died...
    time for a refresher course, for those involved
     
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    Introducing solitary large carnivores is difficult and risky under all conditions, these things cannot always be prevented short of keeping every animal in isolation which, of course, does not make for a very sustainable breeding program.
     
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    HOMIN96 Well-Known Member

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    "Joined: Today"

    Say no more.
     
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    the komodo death was negligence....as for the tiger, some sort of rescue plan should have been in place, maybe darting ,.. maybe the intro was to quick for another tiger on his territory, not good which ever way you look at it
     
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    so you are happy to see a tiger death in captivity.....well i am not
     
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    How long do you think it would have taken for darting to take effect?
     
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    HOMIN96 Well-Known Member

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    No, I am certainly not happy to see a tiger die. But I absolutely loathe reactionary people who make an account here just to post an angry rant about it and provide zero arguments for an actual discussion. These threads always surface after these sorts of event and always end up rightly deleted.
     
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    You make it sound a lot easier than it is to prevent these sort of things.
     
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    Isn't it? We as zookeepers have every animal trained to the point that they accept our orders and we can also totally predict their reaction right? /s
     
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    I'm not 100% certain but judging by the typing and spelling this may not be their first account.
     
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    HOMIN96 Well-Known Member

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    I never really paid attention to these threads or I rather always came too late to the party, so I can't say if it's someone who's been here before.
     
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    It is very interesting to watch comments on these internet forums. One persons freedom of speech or opinion is of course another persons angry rant, and as much 'air-time' is given to the ignorant as to the informed. There will always be someone in a position of censorship which has to cut in at some point; and of course whilst every opinion is equal, some are more equal than others... The source of most information on which opinion is based must inevitably be the media, which of course never allows the truth to stand in the way of a good story.
     
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    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member

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    Funny thing, but the official statement covered this one:

    Zoo staff immediately implemented their prepared response, using loud noises, flares and alarms to try and distract the pair, but Asim had already overpowered Melati.

    Easy thing to overlook when you're more focused on creating a new account on Zoochat to post a knee-jerk attack on ZSL than to consider you may not have all the facts, but there you go.....

    Oh, and:

    The official statement also makes it clear that he entered her territory. Again, knee-jerk reactions are very unhelpful when one not only isn't in possession of all the facts, but is disregarding those facts that have been released.
     
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    Does someone want to tell him that this isn't Hollywood and that tranquilizer darts don't work instantaneously?
     
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    In the U.K. is the term "armchair quarterback" used?
     
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    Lots of people on facebook need reminding of this too ...
    probably similar to "keyboard warrior" I suppose?
     
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    I feel like the "armchair expert" is the universally used term
     
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    I had to look that up.... no the difference is that "armchair quarterbacks" sit around watching others do their job and out of pure ego and ignorance criticize from a distance how they did it.
     
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    Oh, you mean like my wife when I'm driving.
     
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    One person's right to express their opinion may be equal (venue dependant of course), but the opinions themselves are not, as is clearly seen in the reaction in this thread!