I thought about this last weekend, but KevinB's comments on Barcelona and Zooreview's on WAMS have spurred me ask now. Maybe this should be in the cafe section instead? Do you, via facebook or otherwise try to understand where people are coming from and why, when they are attacking zoos? Myself and a couple of friends have had interesting, but not confrontational chats with facebook posters, resulting from particular incidents: someone who decided to inflame comments after the death of a keeper, turned out to be a lad crying out for attention and not getting over his brother's death. someone constantly jabbing at a zoo after a tiger death, turned out to be an anti capitalist, blaming the zoo for all the world's financial ills. someone who is still furious over the threat of destruction of a pair of tigers several years ago to allow a breeding pair in. There's a few more too and it turns out one of my friends was talking to the guy who posted the Bili videos. He is part of an animal 'rights' group, but very polite with a rose tinted view of what an alternative to zoos would be; big reserves. Unfortunately, the guy didn't stick around to explain how these would be managed and protected in relatively unstable countries; he misunderstood the term 'research', associating it with sick laboratory torture and excused himself. According to my friend, he was polite and patient (translation was needed) and might be more of an animal welfare campaigner than a hard core animal 'rights' activist.