So, to fill this section of the Forums: In Dresden there life 1 old Asiatic-Elephant-Cow, 3 aduld African-Elephants and one ofspring (1,0) of one of them. Now there´s trouble, cause the Eles life there in a kind of circus-keeping. They have a nice enclosure, but the keepers are always near the animals, they chain them for houres (even the litte one, woh is now 2 1/2 years old), hit them hardly with hooks, and so on... Now its said in the newspapers, that the bull have to go (remember how young he is!!!), cause he pushes the keepers some times... They have no money for a bull-area, so they say he has to go... By the way, he wasn´t bread naturaly, but the mother was given an AI (is it called that way in english?). So what do you think? Is it ok to give a such young calv away, cause the keepers have to keep up their egos instead of doing protected contact?!