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Discussion in 'Belgium' started by Elly, 21 Dec 2008.

  1. Elly

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    The zoo announced: WE ARE PREGNANT!

    The zoo started a big media campain to give attention to the pending birth of Khaing Pyo Pyo to the first ever Belgium baby elephant.

    There are big projections of the echo's of the baby (600 m2) in different cities in Belgium (Brussels, Antwerp, Gent and Namur) and the birth can be seen live via internet (notifications sent via SMS and e-mail).

    ....... the ongoing farewell travels of Alex (Indra in Amersfoort is expecting as well and Donna will have to beat this because of logistics ...)
     
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    For the record, still nothing happend in Antwerp. The mediahype is there, and there is already a huge queue made for the exhibit. But like the most people where thinking (it would be strange if it was already born, because nobody would have seen them "mated" arround that time. It was possible, but not likley) it is a baby that probably will be born this month. :)
     
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    Congrats to Khaing Phyo Phyo.
     
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    wow, thanks for telling. I was getting quite worried as the baby was very overdue. ( Since Alexander left on april 17th 2007)
     
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    It's a girl!!!

    No, they baby wasn't overdue but Antwerp started their campaign at the very first possible time the baby could have been delivered (even before Tonya was born - for me there were allways logistical questions on that one).

    For the ones having trouble with getting access to the camera, there are stills of the webcam to be found at: 'h'echte (dieren)vrienden van de Zoo :: View topic - Het grote baby olifant K topic 2009
     
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    Thanks for the info,

    Congrats to Antwerp zoo! wonder what they'll call the baby? Another burmese name?
     
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    @ Dragon: you have the dates wrong, Alex left Rotterdam in April 2007 and stayed in Antwerp from April til October 2007 (and mated Phyo Phyo in May and August 2007). The baby was right in time after a 21,5 months pregnancy.
     
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    oh yes! sorry my bad!
    Knew something wasn't quite right there! Thanks.
     
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    Why does the smaller of the adults keep kicking the calf?! Which one was the mother? I hope this baby's ok, she seems to have had a very rough start!
     
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    The smaller one is the 4 year old sister May Tagu, I think she was overexited and inexperience rather then really agressive. She knocked the calf serveral times over before the mother started to push her out of the way and told her not to do that in "elephant", I guess! I watched the baby live on cam later in the morning and by then, May Tagu had calmed down and learned her lession, she was very careful with the calf, who was good on her feet and walking around. All is well, elephant calves aren`t as fragile as they look, when the calf tried to get up she fell serveral times and it looked pretty bad too, but that is completely normal.
     
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    Concratulations to the zoo director and the elephant mother. ;)

    Seriously: do I notice well that elephant calves are more often female, when the mother is kept with several older cows? Berlin zoo also has a second daugther in a row. It could make sense from ecological point of view. :confused:
     
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    good question there,

    but I think most of the time in the animal kingdom sex is determined by the father. But this might contradict the theory within elephants as most AI calves are male. Male sperm are usally very fast and energetic but die off very fast. Their speed often gets them there first. But female sperm is slower although has a much longer lifespan.
    Or could it be that the way zoos reserve frozen elephant sperm is so good that they reserve an equal amount of both female and male sperm???
     
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    We had the same discussion on Dutch fora several months ago when Tonya was born in Rotterdam (photo's of Tonya being kicked ...). Trong Nhi also acted agressively towards her the first day and was disciplined by the other adult cows. Now she's a doting sister.

    This was the first birth May Tagu experienced and it was her mother now giving attention to something she didn't know. No doubt that the same will happen here.
     
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    Great to see a natural elephant birth like that with other close females and young taking part. It should always happen like this instead of being penned alone or chained.

    Its the first birth May Tagu has seen (apart from her own) so she would have been nervous and scared with whats happening to her mother, and confused as to whats just happened!! Khaing Phyo Phyo looks like a great mother, protecting the calf while still letting Yu Yu Yin and May Tagu to get close and involved.
     
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    Actually this news should have gotten from Gorilla Gust, but he's to busy with his Antwerp-forum ....;)

    And the baby's name is .... Kaymook or Kay-Mook (meaning Pearl), Belgium newspapers don't agree on the exact spelling.

    Matriach Dumbo wasn't present at the birth but has now made contact with the baby and is actually a bit scared. Whether this is because of some former trauma (loosing a twin herself or being taken from the wild as a baby) is not clear.

    May Tagu has changed her attitude overnight and is now a loving, caring sister that guards her little sister all the time. Kaymook is also nursed by Yu Yu Yin, who had milkproduction starting as well.
     
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    wow, everything seems to be going really really well, which is excellent of course. Is Kaymook a burmese name? I can't really find whether if it is or not.
     
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    Yea...its going unbelivebly well :D Seen as Kay Mook is Khiang's 4th calf she is an experienced mother now, in a tightly-knit herd, things are really great!!