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  1. DaLilFishie

    DaLilFishie Well-Known Member

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    A Japanese aquarium had a slender oarfish at one point, but it only lasted a few hours.
    I think that oarfish (probably only small juveniles) could be feasibly kept, given a dedicated exhibit, and were somehow able to be collected alive and healthy (most oarfish are found dead or dying washed up on beaches).
     
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    The biggest issue with keeping oarfish (aside from procuring them), I imagine, is the tank. They can grow to over 35 feet long, and they swim vertically, so any exhibit that they’d be comfortable living in would have to be several stories tall. And since they’re deep-sea dwellers, it would also have to be kept very cold and dark, and chilling that much water to that low a temperature is very, very expensive.
     
  3. DaLilFishie

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    Hence why I said probably very small juveniles only. But then what do you do once it grows? I don't know.
     
  4. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I don't think the Beluga Sturgeon is comparable to the Great White Shark because, even if no aquariums keep them at their maximum size, a good number of aquariums do still keep the sturgeon and have been doing so for years, some for nearly a decade or more. The sharks have only ever been kept for very brief periods.

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  5. imaginarius

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    Agreed — white sharks almost always die of stress when kept at any age (or are released when they start to deteriorate), whereas belugas seem to thrive to some extent. But what do you do when the 6ft juvenile beluga you put on exhibit becomes a 20ft beluga 30 years later? They can get incredibly massive. If you don’t have the space for it to comfortably swim around anymore, what do you do? Even just removing it to release it back into the Black Sea is incredibly risky, and could easily end its life.
     
  6. gentle lemur

    gentle lemur Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Another suggestion for a unique and interesting species - the bowfin, Amia calva. I suspect that it may be fairly common in public aquaria in the eastern USA (its native area), but it is very rarely seen in Europe. It is a hardy, primitive species that does look quite primitive and grows into a husky adult up to a metre long. It has a fairly stiff body and swims with sinuous movements of its dorsal fin, which runs along most of its back, so it is a stealthy predator. Females produce large numbers of eggs and males guard the brood of fry for several weeks, which is fascinating. I have only seen this species once, 24 years ago, when I had the opportunity to photograph a fairly small specimen off-show at the aquarium in Bolton Museum. I have never forgotten the amusing way it looked at me, first with one eye and then with the other :)
     
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    I've actually only seen a Bowfin twice, once in 2013 at the Newport Aquarium and again in 2019 at the Oklahoma Aquarium.

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    Bowfins are usually signed in most large native fish tanks in the eastern US but I suspect they are not actually there, I have never seen one.

    I personally think the Burbot is a fascinating and odd looking fish, which I saw at Shedd.
     
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    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I'd like to see paddlefish and reedfish again. I saw a reedfish in a fish tank in a Strassbourg youth hostel
     
  10. CheeseChameleon1945

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    I would definitely like to see more exotic species of catfish. Upside down catfish, or Singapore little warty catfish. Not stuff like redtail catfish.
     
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    The tandanus catfish/eel-tailed catfish (Tandanus tandanus) is a cool little critter. It's a staple of native freshwater exhibits in Australia, not sure about elsewhere. Glass catfish (although not all that rare in aquaria) are a cool oddball catfish, not only is most of their body transparent and you can see their bones, but they're also one of the few non-bottom dwelling catfish, preferring to swim in the water column.
     
  12. DaLilFishie

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    I would love to see paddlefish one day, unfortunately none are kept in Australia afaik. Are they kept outside of America at all?
     
  13. DaLilFishie

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    Freshwater fish that aren't from South America/Tanganyika/Malawi/species native to wherever the aquarium is. There are some really cool freshwater fish out there that just aren't displayed in favour of the typical South American species and African cichlids.
     
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    The Nile perch has led to the decline of various cichlids. I have seen several cichlids in zoos but I don't think I've seen a Nile perch.
     
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    It would be quite interesting visually to see a Nile perch exhibited in an aquarium placed alongside one for cichlid species that it threatens with extinction in the wild.

    I wonder if this sort of "invasive species and threatened native" concept of display is actually done at any zoos out there?

    It could be quite educational for visitors to see this in some ways.
     
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    Correct, there are none in Australia. The closest to you would be Singapore (they were at the River Safari - I assume they are still kept). Unlikely as it seems, babies can even be seen for sale in aquarium shops sometimes (although not in Australia, obviously).
     
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    Lates niloticus grows to 2 metres long and is plain greyish brown (or brownish grey) with a very big mouth and an appetite to match - not a very appealing species. ZTL lists them in a few collections, including The Blue Planet (close to Chester Zoo). There are a few smaller species of Lates endemic to Lake Tanganyika and I think individuals are sometimes imported by the aquarium trade and I have a vague memory of seeing one, but I have no idea where.
     
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    American Paddlefish can be seen at a good number of European zoos and aquaria from my experience. They're a pretty common staple of American aquariums as well, usually mixed with a sturgeon species or two.

    I've seen Nile Perch at the Tennessee Aquarium at least, where they exhibit full grown specimens in their river giants tank alongside massive arapaima, Pangasius, and larger freshwater stingrays among others.

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    I've heard about those two species, yes. The glass catfish is a favorite of mine. I imagine them being like minnows I've eaten. Taste like potato chips!:p
     
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    Shedd Aquarium has a section devoted to the Great Lakes that showcases both native and invasive species alongside each other.