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Burgers' Zoo free-ranging species in Burgers Bush, Desert and Mangrove

Discussion in 'Netherlands' started by lintworm, 10 Mar 2015.

  1. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    And that, is exactly why the Bush is my favourite rainforest biome I have visited so far.

    When you go out to the real rainforest (which I have), the animals aren't all just there on a plate awaiting your arrival. You have to find them, not the other way around.

    I assure you there are plenty of birds in the Bush, but that is what I love about it; the thrill of having to search for a species I might not have seen yet/before (the catbirds, chachalacas and leafbird continue to evade me), and not knowing what may be around the corner. One such example; when I last visited (with @vogelcommando and @korhoen) we were so busy trying to spot all the species that we very nearly missed a few anoles sitting on a branch, and a screaming piha chick in the nest. It's things like that that make the Bush so special.

    The aardvarks are a hell of a lot more active than in other zoos I visit (London, Chester etc.) and that's another great thing about it; are you going to see them active today? Who knows, but let's go and find out and maybe we'll see something special like a catbird or the leafbird or even one of the insanely elusive frog species in the Bush on the way.

    I haven't seen every species in there yet, nor do I think I will see every species in the Bush in one visit ever. But to say that just because the birds are proving to be a little bit more elusive and that the larger animals aren't as active does not mean that the animals aren't there.
     
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    I will do a bird search next time I'm there. Guess somewhere next week.
     
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    In my own experience and that of a few friends, the catbirds tend to stick around the area close to the exit of the hanging bridge, and the chachalacas tend to be in the general area between the restaurant and the otters (up in the trees or down in the bushes). I've seen the chachalacas roaming the hardened paths, the small winding paths near the top, and even on top of the parasols of the restaurant as well, though!

    The hooded pittas, golden-fronted leafbird, monsterrat troupial, chestnut-bellied seed finch and rose-bellied bunting are the ones that keep eluding me; luckily I've seen all but the seed finch, which is one of the newest additions, I've seen in other collections. :D
     
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    I have to agree on a part of your points, but I disagree with your overall feeling. Especially the Desert has never had the recent species diversity it has now, when comparing to the past 10 years, but the free-flying birds can be somewhat hard to see on some visits.

    The Bush has seen a slight species reduction also in the free-flying birds (from about 40 to just over 35), but overall bird numbers seem to have been relatively stable. On my last visit the main change was that there hardly seemed to be any Madagascar fody around, which has been one of the dominant bird species since their introduction in the Bush about 10 years ago. Overall birds are slightly harder to spot in the autumn months before the vegetation is cut back again over winter... With that much vegetation it can be very dark in the hall, which might add to an overall less appealing feeling...

    It is true the capybara are now one of the stars in the hall and that the current otter pair is hardly visible anymore, it has been the other way around though several years ago... In that time the capybara did not breed and were often somewhat hidden on the beach, but in that period of time the otters were always active....
     
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    True! Last friday I visited with my girlfriend and we went on a hunt for every species in all 3 ecodisplays. We saw quite a few birds even some I have not seen before around there (near the overview platform), it was some sort of pigeon with orange hair on the back of its head.
    The autumn indeed always is lesser in species but this year it feels less than last years. Even the Kaiman kind of feels boring as it is often on its beach alone. Maybe they should change that species over time to spark the bush up a bit again. But who am I to decide that stuff. Those are just dreams.

    The desert has increased on species as the quills are recently very active and smaller birds aswell.
    We noticed the turkeyvultures were splitup in 2. two of them were sitting above the restaurant together, while the other one was on its usual spot above the gila monster cave.

    News from the Mangrove is that they got 3 new Whistling Ducks as the previous 2 died from stress. I visited the mangrove twice that day to look for the pikes in the water but no sign, maybe they have not settled on a spot yet. We saw quite some crabs but couldnt help but notice the dead trees near the bridge. (That mud beach still feels very empty and boring these days. Some green is maybe missing (eventho that does not fit the crabs) But just like the bush and desert when it started, time will tell.
     
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    Orange-naped fruit dove
     
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    I am quite sure he saw the Green imperial pigeons (Ducula aenea paulina).
     
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    That is of course what I meant hehe; got them and the orange fronted fruit dove confused
     
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    yea it was that one! Are those new in the bush or were those there all along?
     
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    They were released in the Bush about a year ago, before that they spent a year in the old Mangrove.
     
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    ah i see!
     
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    Some updates:

    There are a few new butterfly species in Mangrove; banded orange heliconian, tiger longwing, common postman, sara longwing, grey cracker and blue-banded purplewing.

    Also, the next post I do will have a (rough) species list for Ocean, going by signage. :) won't be anywhere near complete I imagine, but something to go by.
     
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    Ocean (143 species counted as a minimum)


    FISH

    Zebra shark

    Blacktip shark

    Blacktip reef shark

    Scalloped hammerhead shark

    Blackchin guitarfish

    Common shovelnose ray

    Bluespotted ribbontail ray

    Bluespotted stingray

    Honeycomb stingray

    Mangrove whipray

    Cownose ray

    Ocellated eagle ray

    Black-spotted moray

    Laced moray

    Pinecone soldierfish

    Splitfin flashlightfish

    Red lionfish

    Coral hind

    Giant grouper

    Lyretail anthias

    Potato grouper

    Royal dottyback

    Barred flagtail

    Moontail bullseye

    Spotted bigeye

    Banggai cardinalfish

    Pyjama cardinalfish

    Blue blanquillo

    Golden trevally

    Snubnose pompano

    Yellowtail amberjack

    Bluestripe snapper

    Emperor red snapper

    Humpback red snapper

    Sailfin snapper

    Black-tipped fusilier

    Redbelly yellowtail fusilier

    Giant sweetlips

    Oriental sweetlips

    Yellowbanded sweetlips

    Striped monocle bream

    Two-lined monocle bream

    Silver moony

    Blackwedged butterflyfish

    Copperband butterflyfish

    Pyramid butterflyfish

    Raccoon butterflyfish

    Threadfin butterflyfish

    Blacktail angelfish

    Blackstriped angelfish

    Bluegirdled angelfish

    Bluering angelfish

    Emperor angelfish

    Flame angelfish

    Keyhole angelfish

    Ornate angelfish

    Regal angelfish

    Spotbreast angelfish

    Twospined angelfish

    Yellowtail angelfish

    Azure demoiselle

    Bicolor chromis

    Blacktail humbug

    Blue green damselfish

    Bluestreak damselfish

    Clown anemonefish

    Fire clownfish

    Golden damselfish

    Goldtail demoiselle

    Indo-Pacific sergeant

    Lemon damsel

    Reticulate dascyllus

    Sapphire devil

    Scissortail sergeant

    Spiny chromis

    Threespot dascyllus

    Bird wrasse

    Bluestreak cleaner wrasse

    Clown coris

    Dusky wrasse

    Eight-lined wrasse

    Humphead wrasse

    Lined wrasse

    Lyre-tail hogfish

    Red-breasted wrasse

    Slingjaw wrasse

    Tail-spot wrasse

    Twospot hogfish

    Quoy’s parrotfish

    Jewelled blenny

    Ocellated dragonet

    Banded sleeper goby

    Orbicular batfish

    Spotted scat

    Barhead spinefoot

    Blue-spotted spinefoot

    Foxface rabbitfish

    Masked spinefoot

    Orange-spotted spinefoot

    Achilles tang

    Bignose unicornfish

    Doubleband surgeonfish

    Eyestripe surgeonfish

    Lined surgeonfish

    Mimic surgeonfish

    Orangespot surgeonfish

    Pacific sailfin tang

    Powderblue surgeonfish

    Regal tang

    Spotted surgeonfish

    Spotted unicornfish

    Striated surgeonfish

    Whitecheek surgeonfish

    Yellow tang

    Yellowfin surgeonfish

    Yellowtail tang

    Great barracuda

    Clown triggerfish

    Orange-striped triggerfish

    Red-toothed triggerfish

    Yellowmargin triggerfish

    Scribbled leatherjacket filefish

    Longhorn cowfish

    Immaculate puffer

    Map puffer

    Narrow-lined puffer

    Reticulated puffer

    Longspined porcupinefish


    INVERTEBRATES

    Sea nettle sp.

    Alcyonarian coral sp.

    Alcyonarian coral sp.

    Alcyonarian coral sp.

    Haddon's carpet anemone

    Mushroom coral

    Tiger cowrie

    Turbo snail

    Scaled clam

    Banded coral shrimp

    Cardinal cleaning shrimp

    Red-backed cleaner shrimp

    Blue starfish

    Long-spined sea urchin

    Slate pencil urchin


    Obviously there are bound to be a fair few more fish species and countless more invertebrates (especially corals), but hey it's something to go with right :) any comments are welcome, especially from Burgers' expert @lintworm and the eagle-eyed @vogelcommando and @devilfish
     
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    Isnt there a mackarel species living with the Great Barracuda? I couldnt find it on your list, maybe my ctrl+f is blind aswel.
     
  17. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    No the species that the barracuda are ‘meant to corral’ are the trevallies and the amberjacks.
     
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    Ah yea! That explains! Thanks for this list by the way!
     
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    During my visit today we spotted a few Phasmids in the Mangrove. As you know these are pretty invasive. After a check with the zookeepers of the Mangrove, they were not supposed to be there. So those are roaming there now aswel. But they are going to try and eliminate these asap!
     
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    I just checked and found out they at least kept and depending on how old they were, if they made it and if they breed, may still keep at least one American (green) treefrog species (seen next to the exit of the caiman aviary) and two or three poison dart frog species.

    Zootierliste named some, but may not be complete.

    The Zoo releseased some over the years, but some could be of a different origin since some vistors might try to get rid of some pets every here and then. That happens quiet often at zoos.

    And not to forget the garden banded snails (capaea hortensis) that are often confused by several visitors thinking they found an exotic snail species. Sorry;)

    Beside the native snails the typical cleaner crews from europe amd exported worldwide live in or under the earth. Including pillbugs (porcellio scaber, i think), black millipedes and earthworms.

    Nice species, but no one will dig in the dirt to see them.