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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by CZJimmy, 24 Oct 2007.

  1. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member

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    I see nothing wrong with correcting them. Though if they look like they won't care or possibly will be annoyed, don't waste your breath.

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  2. JVM

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    Excellent summary on the Grizzly bear issue. It took me years to figure out the difference between a proper brown bear and a grizzly bear and I still get mixed up and need reminders from time to time. Bear taxonomy can be very difficult to explain.
     
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    General Zoo Misconceptions

    I thought all North American Brown Bears were Grizzlies?
     
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    Nope. Going off of Wikipedia's list, we've got the Alaskan Brown Bear (U. a. alascensis) from coastal Alaska, the Extinct California Brown Bear (U. a. californicus) from the California region of the U.S., the *Peninsular Brown Bear (U. a. gyas) from the Alaskan Peninsula, the Grizzly Bear (U. a. horriblis) from Alaska to Canada to the Northwestern U.S., the Kodiak Bear (U. a. middendorffi) from a few of the Alaskan islands, the Extinct Mexican Brown Bear (U. a. nelsoni) from Northern Mexico and the Southwestern U.S., the Sitka Brown Bear (U. a. sitkensis) from the ABC Islands of Alaska, the **Stikine Brown Bear (U. a. stikeenensis) from the Stikine River area, and the Extinct Ungava Brown Bear (U. a. ugavaesis) from the Ungava Peninsula.

    *U. a. gyas is considered by some biologists to be the same as U. a. middendorffi.

    **U. a. stikeenensis is considered by some biologists to be the same as U. a. horriblis.

    As far as captive animals go, for the most part they're all U. a. horriblis, there are probably a few U. a. middendorffi spread about, and I know Bronx has three U. a. sitkensis. I know there are a few U. a. middendorffi spread about in Europe as well.

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    Just for the record, the populations from Siberian and nearby are part of the North American group rather than the one from remaining Eurasia. A similar pattern can be seen in some other species groups, e.g. brown bears and red deer/elk.
     
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    There can't possibly be that many species of different brown bears in America, can there be? That's crazy.

    I know the California and Mexican species are sometimes referred to as grizzlies.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if all were valid apart from U. a. stikeenensis.

    I believe they've been called "California Grizzly" and "Mexican Grizzly" as different common names but have always been considered separate ssp.

    Perhaps we should move this topic to The Taxonomy Thread to see what others think?

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    All is not lost, there was a small child, barely big enough to see into the enclosure at Twycross being told that these are chimps and also apes like the orangutans are apes.
     
  9. AverageWalrus

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    Elk=Big Deer
    Barracuda=Shark
    Okapi=Zebra Horse
    Tapir=Mini Elephant
    Legless Lizard=Snake
    Nautilus=Octopus
    Opossum=Monkey
    Capybara=Baby Bear
    Snake=ANACONDA!
    Manatee=Seal
    Quail=Chicken
    Emu=Ostrich
    Ostrich=Emu
    Rhea=Ostrich
    Rhea=Emu
    Bat=Owl
    Ocelot=Baby Cheetah
    Dwarf Camain=Baby Crocodile
    Juvinile Red Coris=NEMO
    Multiple Species of Jack and Trevally=Tuna
    Alligator=Crocodile
    Crocodile=Alligator
    Cougar=Lion
    Bobcat=Kitty
    Shrew=Mouse or Rat
    Hedgehog=Baby Porcupine
    Stork=Pelican
    Bonnethead Shark=Baby Hammerhead Shark
    Catshark=Baby Shark
    Red Ruffed Lemur=Orangutan
     
  10. ThylacineAlive

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    @AverageWalrus, Elk are big deer and Bonnetheads are hammerheads.

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    Well I have heard many people call Bonnetheads Baby Hammerhead Sharks, Full grown Bonnetheads
     
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    At a Guinea Pig: "Oh honey look at the rabbit." Alternatively: "Look at the hamster." Also "Look at the gerbil."

    City slickers. As a cavy person I alternate between being amused and being annoyed with this type of person.

    I almost forgot "No honey these aren't guinea pigs they are cavies." Even though the sign says they're one and the same. Can't they read?
     
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    Lemurs = Squirrels, monkeys, raccoons
     
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    Pandas (to be fair if you are tiny, black and white = panda is not an unreasonable assumption)
     
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    Sun Conure = Baby Red-fronted Macaw
     
  16. TheMightyOrca

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    Every primate is a monkey.

    Not zoos, but a LOT of people, before noticing the collar and leash, mistake my dog for a coyote or a fox. Oy.
     
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    Someone at Detroit Zoo called an axolotl an eel.
    Others-
    Tortoise=Turtle
    Parma wallaby=armadillo? :eek:
    Squirrel=Australian squirrel
    It was at the outdoor koala exhibit at Cleveland OH and a gray squirrel was in the exhibit. I almost said, "No, that is a gray squirrel. Squirrels aren't found in Australia, but possums are. They fit the niche of..."
    Echidna=porcupine
    Potto=monkey
    Komodo dragon=dinosaur (it was a grown man)
    Colobus monkey=chimpanzee
    Meerkat=muskrat
    Large-spotted genet=cat
    The echidnas at Cols get called all sorts of crap- porcupines, hedgehogs, warthogs (yes!) and polar bears, but someone had a stuffed polar bear so they could have noticed that. Chimpanzee=monkey is another one that happens a lot at Detroit.
    Sea lions=sea otters/seals
    Andean condor=chicken
    Rhino=hippo
    Okapi=giraffe
     
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    I was visiting the Oakland Zoo over the weekend, and a family unit stopped by the coati exhibit. The kid asked "Is that an aardvark or an anteater?". Rather than actually finding out, dad suggested it was an anteater and they moved on.

    Signs are there for a reason!
     
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    Malay Tapir = hippo, elephant, aardvark, anteater, sloth.
     
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    I recently went to Adventure Aquarium, and a little kid at the Watchman Goby tank asked his parents "Is that an eel or a sea snake?", they said "Eel", and this all happened right after one of the staff said "The Watchman Gobies are not eels or snakes, they are fish"