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Giraffes in the UK

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by hjkr, 20 Jan 2023.

  1. hjkr

    hjkr Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    After learning of the passing of Kubwa at Dudley Zoo, it got me thinking about which UK zoos have giraffes and which subspecies.

    I've had a quick look on Zootierliste, and notice that most of the giraffes are either Rothschild or 'no subspecies status', with a few Reticulated and one holder for Kordofan Giraffe (South Lakes).

    Does anyone happen to know which zoos have breeding herds? Are there any breeding groups of Reticulated giraffe in the UK? I see South Lakes have both male and female Kordofan, have they ever bred?

    Many thanks.
     
  2. Panthera1981

    Panthera1981 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Whipsnade has a breeding group of Reticulated.
     
  3. TriUK

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    Paignton have an all female herd.
     
  4. Dave Hill

    Dave Hill Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Chester Zoo has a pure Rothschilds herd with a good breeding track record. This is now moving in the next few years to the Heart of Africa exhibit with a new Giraffe breeding Unit and a separate Batchelor herd.
     
  5. Embu

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    Hybrid bulls

    Port Lympne - 3:0 Cillian, Settanta, Sebastian all born 2003(although someone has stated that Cillian may have died last/this year.)

    Folly Farm - 1:0 Rian born 2009

    Cotswold - 1:0 Shingo - born 2009

    Noah's Ark - 1:0 Kito born 2014ish

    Hybrid females

    Blair Drummond
    - 0:5

    Keisha - born 1998
    Kelly - born 2001
    Harriet - born 2005
    Ruby - born 2008
    Bella - born 2009 (Kelly's daughter)

    Blackpool - 0:2

    O'grady - born 2009
    Olympia - born 2012

    Flamingo Land 0:1

    Charlotte - born 2003

    Dudley zoo 0:2

    Josie - born 2009
    Kira - born 2019

    Marwell zoo
    0:2

    Makeda - born 2005
    Christa - born 2008

    Banham 0:1

    Fiona - born 2004


    The only female I know is no longer around is Zara at Flamingo Land (born Marwell 2003) but unsure when she died.








     
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  6. Embu

    Embu Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    There are more males and females to add but my information is at home
     
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    Embu Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    **update**

    Cotswold do/did have a bull called Century(born Longleat 2006) unsure wether there are questions over his purity or if he's just surplus Rothschild(he was the 10th calf to his mother and his father produced many other calves)

    WMSP 2:0
    Strider - born December 2002
    Henry - born August 2004

    Noah's Ark 2:0?
    Kito - born Dudley zoo 2014
    Gilbert - born Noah's Ark 2019, unsure wether he is still alive as a new female has now arrived since his mother's death and no mention of him.

    London zoo 0:2

    Molly - born 2006 Chester
    Margaret - born 2008 Chester
     
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    Embu Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Rothschild

    Chester

    Meru - 1:0 born 2010
    Dagmar - 0:1 born 2006
    Orla - 0:1 born 2008
    Tula - 0:1 born 2010
    Kanzi - 0:1 born 2012 Thorn x Dagmar
    Millie - 0:1 born 2013 Thorn x Orla
    Zarha - 0:1 born 2014 Meru x Aoifie
    Karamojo - 0:1 born 2019 Meru x Orla
    Albert - 1:0 born 2021 Meru x Orla
    Stanley - 1:0 born 2022 Meru x Orla

    Flamingo Land

    George - 1:0 born Woburn 2006
    Mylelne - 0:1 born 2009/2010?
    Lizzie - 0:1 born 2009/2010?
    Savannah aka Pixie? - 0:1 born 2013 George x Lizzie
    Dottie - 0:1 born 2015 George x Lizzie
    Sophie 0:1 born 2017 George x Lizzie

    Marwell zoo

    Ruby - 0:1 born 2012 conceived at Woburn
    M'buro - 1:0 born 2019 Chester zoo

    Longleat

    Thorn - 1:0 born 2001
    Ella - 0:1 born 2004 Kwaheri x Jolly
    Gertrude - 0:1 born 2006 Kwaheri x Becky
    Kate - 0:1 born 2010 Doto x Becky
    Mary - 0:1 born 2012 Doto x Eliza
    Shelley - 0:1 born 2018 Thorn x Gertrude
    Piper - 0:1 born 2019 Thorn x Kate
    Thea - 0:1 born 2019 Thorn x Ella

    Other Longleat females that I'm unsure wether they're alive or dead are;

    Kruger - 0:1 born 2010 Doto x Eliza
    Odele - 0:1 born 2014 Thorn x Ella
    Tara - 0:1 born 2015 Thorn x Jemima
    Lady Emma - 0:1 born 2016 Thorn x Ella



     
  9. hjkr

    hjkr Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Thank you for all of this information, it's very helpful. Do you happen to know how many Whipsnade have? Do you know who M'buro's parents are?
     
  10. Embu

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    I can't help with Whipsnade sadly, apart from they had a male calf born last year.

    M'buro's parents are Meru x Dagmar
     
  11. Rajang-GOAT

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    Colchester have a non breeding herd of 4 female Reticulated Giraffes currently (in a mixed species paddock with Rhino, Zebra, Kudu, Ostrich, and Crowned Cranes) and have considered bringing in a male a few years back, but I don't think it's on the cards at the moment.
     
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    Rothschild continued

    Paignton zoo

    Janica - 0:1 born 2004
    Eliska - 0:1 born 2015 Yoda x Janica
    Otillie - 0:1 born 2012 Yoda x Sangha
    Joanna - 0:1 born 2014 Yoda x Sangha
    Florrie - 0:1 born 2017 Yoda x Sangha

    Folly Farm

    Rudi - 1:0 born 2017 Longleat Thorn x Nora
    Shrimp - 1:0 born 2018 Longleat Thorn x Jemima

    Knowsley

    Alexander - 1:0 born 2013 Woburn
    Orbit - 1:0 born 2014 Woburn

    Chessington

    Kito - 1:0 born 2010 Woburn
    Napoli - 1:0 born 2013 Woburn
    Oscar - 1:0 born 2014 Woburn

    Wingham

    Robin - 1:0 born 2017 Woburn
    Ruedi - 1:0 born 2017 Woburn

    Edinburgh

    Ronnie - 1:0 born 2017 Woburn
    Arrow - 1:0 born 2017 Woburn
    Gilbert - 1:0 born 2017 Belfast
    Fenessey - 1:0 born 2017 WMSP
    Gerald - 1:0 born 2018 WMSP

    Cotswolds

    Melvin - 1:0 born 2017 Flamingo Land
    Tisa - 1:0 born 2018 Flamingo Land
    Remus - 1:0 born 2019 Flamingo Land

    Twycross zoo

    Settanta - 1:0 born 2011 Ireland (Fota?)
    Brad - 1:0 born 2013 Flamingo Land

    Port Lympne

    Valentino -1:0 born 2012 Paignton Yoda x Janica
    Lunar - 0:1 born 2011 Woburn
    Lehanna - 0:1 born 2011 Woburn
    There are at least 2 youngsters here(Mwezi rings a bell) but don't know when they were born
     
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    I'm sure Zahra iz no longer at chester
     
  14. Embu

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    Interesting, does anyone know what's happened to her?
     
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    I think she moved to another collection to prevent inbreeding with meru
     
  16. Embu

    Embu Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    That would make sense, abroad I presume?
     
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    Not sure where she moved to
     
  18. tennisfan

    tennisfan Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Chessington has five male Rothschild giraffes – Kito, Moja, Tonda, Oscar and Napoli.
    Plus they still have Khari (Reticulated) ex Whipsnade as his move to Europe hasn’t yet completed.
     
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    How did I forget Tonda? :eek: am I correct in thinking that Moja is Karamoja and that his mother was Amber( Longleat >Port Lympne>Flamingo Land) ? What's his classification, Rothschild,hybrid or unknown?
     
  20. tennisfan

    tennisfan Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Yes Moja formerly known as Karamoja was I believe born at Port Lympne He was born c 3 July 2006. looking at a PL thread on zoochat it looks like Amber was his mother but she was pregnant before being transferred there.