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Discussion in 'Germany' started by rodentia, 2 Dec 2009.

  1. Eagle

    Eagle Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    The barbet is much rarer in captivity than the shoebill ;)
     
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    Maybe-but barbets are breeding much better than shoebills:D And, of course, also than walrusses;)
     
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    Think that walruses and shoebills will breed better in the future :)
    It's just a thing of enclosure design.
     
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    Unfortunatelly you are not right if we are talking about walruses. There is a BBC film "Two Tonne Tusker" (you can easily google link for downloading it), and it is about problems of walrus breeding in captivity.
     
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    As far as I know, there is only one regular breeding group of walrusses in human care at the Kamogawa Seaworld in Japan-they have bred 7 Walrusses since 1994, the last one was born last year.Harderwijk has raised three calfs,Moscow one ? So I would say, there are defenitely more barbet hatched in zoos than walrusses are born, and I'm sure, it will not change in the future.Barbets are breeding well at private holders. Also shoebills, there are only a handful birds in zoos, which are able to breed.Paiiri Daiza lost one of the breeding animals, and I don't know, why the birds at tampa have bred only once-Al Wabra could be the third facillity breeding them. But there is more to breed walrusses sthan only exhibit design-if it would be that easy, all animals could be bred in zoos...and from my personal view, Hamburgs new walrus enlcoure could be better-where' the landpart ? Or the natural ground ?

    Strange, how could we come from walrusses to breeding barbets ?
     
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    Harderwijk - I know about two calves: Nikolai (1995) and Raisa (2004).
    Moskow - young female Olivia was born in 2008. Newborn calf can be consider as Moscow zoo's too because mating was some days before all walruses were transferred to Tierpark Hagenbeck.

    Film I mentioned above claims that there were less than 20 walrus births in American (?, maybe USA?) zoos in 80 years. Biggest problem in wrong mating season timing because of influence of wrong latitude (temperature, daylength...) probably.
     
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    So this is denitely NOT Germanys first breeding of the walrus, only the first BIRTH-a big diffrence !So hopefully Odin will mate again in Hamburg.
     
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    Frankly speaking there was mating also after walruses arrived to Germany. But I agree with you.
     
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    According to the Video on the parks Homepage, it isn't really sure, where the calf was bred, at Moscow or Hagenbeck.
     
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    That is all a bit arbitrary. It is good news that a walrus has been born at Hagenbeck!
     
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    I agree-hopefully, the calf will grow up well.:)
     
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    2 intresting births sofar this year :
    Rock hyrax
    White pelican
     
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    But they're keeping Chinese leopards..
     
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    One of them already died...
     
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    4 year old Amur tiger male died.