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Handbook of the Mammals of the World

Discussion in 'TV, Movies, Books about Zoos & Wildlife' started by Hix, 7 Jan 2009.

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  1. gerenuk

    gerenuk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Question. Why is a mammal book being discussed on a bird forum?
     
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  2. jbnbsn99

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    The Groves/Grubb species list is absolutely amazing. I have been reading his taxonomic papers for some time now, but I didn't expect this many new species.
     
    jbnbsn99, 15 Nov 2011
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  3. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I would use a different word ;)
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    just bringing this back to the attention of those interested, the Birdforum thread above has been added to significantly since I posted, with lots more of Groves' species lists (eleven species of klipspringers....seven species of chamois.....)
     
    Chlidonias, 18 Nov 2011
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  5. jbnbsn99

    jbnbsn99 Well-Known Member

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    I've read some of the new Groves book on Google books. I can get in line with a lot of his splits and renaming, but I really need to see some of the details from DNA to get in line with all of it. But, everything I've read so far makes sense.
     
    jbnbsn99, 18 Nov 2011
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  6. KCZooFan

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    Just read this...dammit...its like everything I've learned has been changed
     
    KCZooFan, 18 Nov 2011
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  7. Stefka

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    Got both volumes as an unexpected Christmas gift and still can´t get enough of it. It was the best Xmas surprise ever! :)
     
    Stefka, 10 Jan 2012
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    I have today received the leaflet announcing Volume 3 - Primates - is to be published in December 2012 . It promises description of more than 470 species .

    The leaflet shows Plate 37 - baboons . I was not aware that there are 2 sub-species of Gelada - ssp gelada with a gold-coloured mane and ssp obscurus with a dark mane in the males .

    I am really excited about publication of this book .
     
    Bele, 29 Aug 2012
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  9. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands 15+ year member Premium Member

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    Cool - I have a hole in my bookcase that it will fill just nicely!

    :p

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    Hix, 30 Aug 2012
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  10. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Shame about the price tag :p which rules any of these books out for me.
     
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  12. Javan Rhino

    Javan Rhino Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I agree, the price tag is enough to put a lot of people off what I can only imagine is a fascinating book. It's approximately a fifth of my wage - absolutely not practical for a lot of people :(
     
    Javan Rhino, 30 Aug 2012
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  13. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Which makes it all the more infuriating that Chester Zoo library gets copies of the series, but is inaccessible for the indefinite future; I'd happily visit Chester for a purely library-based visit if I could!
     
    TeaLovingDave, 30 Aug 2012
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    I totally agree. The Gorilla plates look like childish cartoons.
     
    jbnbsn99, 30 Aug 2012
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  15. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    wow those plates are not good! I liked the douroucoulis, but the other three samples are rubbish (I know that's harsh, but as jbnbsn99 says the gorillas look like a child illustrated them!). Certainly not up the standard one would expect from this series. See here for the sample plates: Plates | Lynx Edicions

    The artist is Stephen Nash who is actually a specialist primate illustrator, and even has a monkey named after him!
    Stephen D. Nash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
     
    Chlidonias, 30 Aug 2012
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    My birthday present just arrived (only two weeks late)!

    I got volumes 1 and 2, and very fine books they are too! I wasn't expecting them to be quite as big and detailed as they are, I thought they might have been a bit more technical (glad they aren't). I have so far just been flicking through them, repeatedly, and reading whatever catches my eye, but I will get down to reading them properly (especially volume 2) shortly.

    Have popped #3 on the Christmas list!
     
    zooboy28, 18 Sep 2012
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  17. CambsVet

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    Oh dear, Ive just discovered all of the HBW and HMW are avalaible in my department library....... I now know what I'll be reading instead of doing my work!
     
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  18. dean

    dean Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    What differeance is there to Walkers Mammals of the world ? A very large 2 volume set
    Dean
     
    dean, 11 Oct 2012
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  19. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    When complete, HMW will be a very large 8 volume set :p
     
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  20. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands 15+ year member Premium Member

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    Walkers is Black and White photographs, many of them old photos, or of museum specimens or captive individuals.

    HMW uses colour plates to illustrate the individual species and subspecies, and has chapters on families, behaviours etc, which is lavishly illustrated with some of the best wildlife photography you will see anywhere. There is much more text than Walker's too.

    Walker's has been pretty much the standard mammalian reference work for all mammals, but HMW is going to surpass it.

    :p

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    Hix, 12 Oct 2012
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