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Have night monkeys gone night night from US zoos?

Discussion in 'United States' started by DavidBrown, 4 Sep 2013.

  1. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    oddly enough, they seem quite common in Asia. I've seen them in a number of Asian zoos, most recently Seoul and Beijing.
     
  2. birdsandbats

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    Yes, Milwaukee has Gray-Bellied.

    Timbavati Wildlife Park has a few.
     
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    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Here are (relatively) current holdings:

    Non-species level: Omaha, Milwaukee

    A. lemurinus: Bright’s, John Ball, Omaha, Memphis

    A. l. griseimembra: Capron Park, Mesker Park

    A. nancymae: Audubon, DWA, Santa Ana

    A. trivirgatus: Louisiana Purchase
     
  4. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Santa Ana just went out of the species, having sent their last individual to a private primate facility in southern California with seven other nancymae.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    What a sad list.

    What does "non-species level" mean? That the zoo isn't sure what species it is or that you can't confirm? And why does Omaha have both that and A. lemurinus?
     
  6. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Agreed, though I’ve since become aware that night monkeys have a surprising presence in unaccredited zoos, although I’m not sure what if any pure species is kept.

    Non-species means it’s not listed to species level by the zoo, and is probably a hybrid but I have no way of knowing for sure. I’m guessing Omaha’s male is either a hybrid or unknown, their female is confirmed lemurinus.
     
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    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    It probably wouldn't be too difficult to acquire more pure night monkeys if zoos really wanted to; A. nancymae is (was?) present in research facilities, and Europe has decently sized populations of A. griseimembra and A. a. boliviensis. I think the main issues are the same as for other nocturnal species these days: low demand and therefore major space constraints. Hopefully they don't disappear; they are becoming increasingly threatened in the wild, so importing from Latin America may not be an option in the near future.
     
  8. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Nancymae is definitely still present in research facilities, and other types of private facilities as well. The DuMond Conservancy maintains 4 species in pretty sizable numbers, and I know some are around in the private trade too- in fact, I know someone who’s recently acquired some. I imagine the main problem for their continued survival in captivity will be the lack of pure animals of particular species.
     
  9. drill

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    Grey-legged I know of at Miller Park Zoo, Timbavati Wildlife Park, and Metro Richmond Zoo. Lupa exhibits Three-striped and Monkey Jungle might still have Spix's. Peoria should have Nancy Ma's
     
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    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    I visited Miller Park and Peoria four years ago and neither had owl monkeys, so that's an interesting development. Do you know where they are located in the zoos?
     
  11. drill

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    Inside the Rainforest area with monkeys. At Peoria, inside the building with the hornbills and bats
     
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    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    For Miller Park, do you mean the glass-fronted enclosure inside the walk-through Rainforest? Did they replace the marmosets that were there?

    Also what kind of hornbills? When I was there they just had a single Blyth's.
     
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    Yes, it was with many kinds of small monkeys, like sloths, tamarins and marmosets.
     
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    That's what I mean. When I was there, I'm pretty sure they had 2. One zoo I went to got Trumpeter hornbills since, it may have been this one.
     
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    How is it confirmed? AFAIK all A. lemurinus are griseimembra listed under old taxonomy.

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    I just visited Monkey Jungle for the first time yesterday and there were no exhibits of night monkeys, but I think I saw a sign mentioning that their DuMond Conservancy has an extensive collection either behind the scenes or somewhere else?
     
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    Is Dumond open to the public.
     
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    As far as I know, no.
     
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    thanks
     
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    No, but I think one could visit if they contacted them properly. No guarantees, though.

    ~Thylo