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History of saiga in captivity

Discussion in 'Europe - General' started by Shirokuma, 10 Dec 2011.

  1. Michael

    Michael Well-Known Member

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    Loa Angeles had a small group for several years. They bred there and after the male died, females were sent out when no male could be obtained. I think they went to the SDWAP.
     
  2. baboon

    baboon Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    The saiga in Wuwei were imported from San Diego Zoo and former East Germany, thus I think they are still Saiga tatarica tatarica.
     
  3. Kifaru Bwana

    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    East Germany would be Tierpark Berlin I presume.

    How is the breeding group doing at Wuwei now?
     
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    baboon Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Yes, it is Tierpark. The Wuwei had 105 individuals in 2011.
     
  5. ungulate nerd

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    The Saiga at the Los Angeles Zoo were there between 1989 and 1992, there original intention was to breed saiga but what happened was the saiga at the Los Angeles Zoo were mauled by coyotes and if any of you are wondering what part of the zoo the saiga were in, they were on the hillside, back then the Los Angeles Zoo was only one of 2 zoos to keep saiga in the united states
     
  6. carina beana

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    where did you get these numbers? im doing project on saigas...and need to find out how many askania currently have?
     
  7. Arek

    Arek Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    It's from EARAZA report. On net I find older version only - for 2008. Here is a link:
    http://earaza.ru/wps/wp-content/uploads/inf28_eng.pdf
    Some data about saiga on page 66 (130) and 180 (358). About Askaniya Nova on page 19 (37) but I doubt if emails are correct.
     
  8. callorhinus

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    EARAZA reports:

    Jan 2010 - http://earaza.ru/pdf/inf29.pdf

    "Saiga tatarica tatarica IUCN (CR) Russian saiga antelope
    Askaniya-Nova
    Breeding 121 (1/2/4) (page 137)
    Herd 280 (page 393)
    Moscow
    Herd 1/2"

    Jan 2011 - http://earaza.ru/wps/wp-content/uploads/inf30_2.pdf

    "Saiga tatarica tatarica IUCN (CR) Russian saiga antelope
    Askaniya-Nova
    Breeding 69 (12/3/12) (page 160)
    Herd 236 (page 491)
    Moscow
    Breeding 1/3
    Herd 1/4"

    Jan 2012 - http://earaza.ru/wps/wp-content/uploads/Сборник-ЕАРАЗА-No.-31-том-II.pdf

    "Saiga tatarica tatarica IUCN (CR) Russian saiga antelope
    Askaniya-Nova
    Breeding 170 (4/2/26) (page 115)
    Herd 305 (page 463)
    Moscow
    Breeding 2/1/1
    Herd 0/2"

    Last EARAZA information about zoos: http://earaza.ru/wps/wp-content/uploads/Cборник-ЕАРАЗА-No.-31-том-I.pdf

    About Askaniya-Nova:
    "A S K A N I Y A - N O V A
    Zoopark of the Biosphere Reserve “Askaniya- Nova” named by F.E. Falz - Fein UAAS
    75230 Khersonskaya obl., Chaplinskii r-n, pgt Askaniya-Nova, ul. Frunze, 13.
    Tel.: (3805538) 6-12-32, 6-14-75, 6-12-86, 6-11-41. Fax: (3805538) 6-12-32, 6-12-86. E-mail: [email protected]. Web: www.askania-nova-zapovednik.gov.ua. Director, Reserve: Viktor S. Gavrilenko. Scientific Director: Natalya I. Yasinetskaya. Curator, Dept. Biodiversity of Wild Animals Conservation: Aleksandr S. Mezinov. Vet.: Nikolai P. Guba. 280 staff (Reserve).
    Population – 3.600.
    Open 1885.
    2,376.4 ha.
    (Zoopark – 75.5 ha.). Att. – 91,059. Mammals – 44 spp., 1,327 specimens; birds – 77 spp., 2,464 specimens. Total: 121 spp., 3,791 specimens.
    Speciality: birds, ungulates."
     
  9. hedigerfan

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    The saiga at the Highland Wildlife Park did breed, in fact most saiga kept in zoos breed, they just generally do not live very long. What does not seem to appear in the meager amount of literature published on saiga is that Edinburgh Zoo had them as they quarantined the animals for HWP. They also bred there but I don't believe any of the young survived very long.
     
  10. ungulate nerd

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    Other american zoos that had Saigas besides San Diego Zoo, San Diego Wild Animal Park, Los Angeles Zoo, San Francisco Zoo and Dallas Zoo were Bronx Zoo and Oklahoma City Zoo, are there any other zoos in the United States that had saigas ?

    Also I hear that in the far future Calgary Zoo, Tallinn Zoo and San Diego Wild Animal Park might get them
     
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    One canadian facility that had them was the now closed Alberta Game Farm, they had them in the 1970s

    Also @Shirokuma, zoos in the United Kingdom that had them were

    London Zoo
    Woburn Safari Park
    Edinburgh Zoo
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    Highland Wildlife Park
     
  12. Pleistohorse

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    Saw them in Koln in 2002. Love to get them here in Alaska. Maybe a Beringia exhibit!
     
  13. ungulate nerd

    ungulate nerd Well-Known Member

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    I just found out that the St.Louis Zoo had Saigas in the 1940s
    and
    Smithsonian National Zoo had Saigas in the 1950s
    and
    the Louisiana Purchase Zoo and Gardens in Monroe, LA had Saigas in the 1970s

    Louisiana Purchase Zoo and Gardens especially shocks me !!!
     
  14. ungulate nerd

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    I was able to track down 2 other zoos in the United States that had Saigas in the past, I found this info out in the International Zoo Yearbooks, it turns out that they had Saigas at the Rio Grande Zoo and at Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo, this may have been in the 1970s
     
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    Any news or developments on the talk of Tallinn getting them?
     
  16. ungulate nerd

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    I believe that Tallinn Zoo was going to get them from Moscow Zoo Breeding Center in 2012 but considering that Moscow Zoo's last Saiga died in 2012 that didn't end up happening and I am not sure if it will, unless Tallinn gets them from from Wuwei Conservation Center in China's Gansu Province or from Askania Nova Zoo in Ukraine

    As for another zoo that held Saiga in the past, that zoo is the Japan Serow Center in Gozaisho and they closed in late 2006, but saiga left their collection long before they closed
     
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    Do you know if any zoo in China ever kept Mongolian saiga (Saiga mongolica) or are Russian saiga (Saiga mongolica) the only Saiga species that has ever been kept in captivity ?
     
  18. callorhinus

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    Last EARAZA report (01 Jan 2013) claims that there are two females (Saiga tatarica tatarica) in Moscow zoo.

    There are also more than 50 animals of this subspecies in "Living Steppe Nature" center, Rostov region, Orlowski district (in Russian), but I don't think they send their animals to zoos.
     
  19. Rhinopithecus

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    Almost every major zoo in former socialistic countries of Europe held saiga after the war. Just from my memory there were animals in a numer of Polish zoos - Warsaw (went later to Cologne), Wroclaw and Poznan, additionally Prague, Brno, Bratislava, Kosice, surely a numer more. All apart from the ones in Warsaw and Chomutov lived a very short life and most bred once only. The males were usually first to go, females somehow hardier.
    There is a rather large captive colony in Kalmykia. Must be well over a 100 by now.
     
  20. callorhinus

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    Up to 100 if I am not mistaken. Some photos here.