I reckon that we can learn a lot from visiting bad animal collections as well as the good. The bad I find are mostly as a result of ignorance. The owners and staff just know no better and don't have the cash to put things right. One of the exceptions to this is the horrific Loboc River Tarsier Project. This place is raking the cash in from all angles. What it does not do is show one iota of care for the animals upon whose back they are earning a living. It is doubtful if any of the animals live more than a few weeks.